rick619
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I never though of putting the high octane fuel in my F150. No complaints about the performance, though only 30K miles so far. Now I want to try a tank of it to see if I notice a difference.
Any problems with the 2019?
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I never though of putting the high octane fuel in my F150. No complaints about the performance, though only 30K miles so far. Now I want to try a tank of it to see if I notice a difference.
Yes as minimum, but not recommended. Want Rated power, put the good stuff in, 92 Octane or above.
Yep, even when I am on Stock tuning, I run 93. It has had 87 in it 2 times. When the dealer had it new, and last week during the created gas shortage. It is noticeable. Especially if you do any data logging with something like an HPTuners MPVI2. The motor adjusts to the lower Octane just fine, but you can see the knock retards, and it pulling power.
Calidad
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87 works just fine with zero negatives other than if you need / want 15hp more lol.
Premium is not required. No harm comes to it on 87.
HAHA. No negatives…just less power and lower MPG.
Under load, or high temps, the added octane is good for more than 15HP. The 15HP is based on Car & Driver testing a F150 on a dyno.
Again, not saying 87 is bad. But if you wanted rated power, run 91+.
People always forget about this paragraph when referencing the Octane…It is important:
All good. I don’t know about you. I bought the Expedition because it was a large SUV with power, and a lot of capability. I want to get the most potential out of it.
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Calidad
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OP’s wife isn’t going to be towing or needing full power capacity hauling the kids to soccer practice.HAHA. No negatives…just less power and lower MPG.
Under load, or high temps, the added octane is good for more than 15HP. The 15HP is based on Car & Driver testing a F150 on a dyno.
Again, not saying 87 is bad. But if you wanted rated power, run 91+.
People always forget about this paragraph when referencing the Octane…It is important:
All good. I don’t know about you. I bought the Expedition because it was a large SUV with power, and a lot of capability. I want to get the most potential out of it.
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My Toyota 4.7 required premium when doing anything other than low speed in town driving or it would rattle like a bucket of bolts. Owners manual stated 87 was fine but when under heavy loads it required premium. Mileage never changed.
My Expedition gets the same mileage regardless of fuel grade.
My wife daily drives ours tuned on E85.
If you were talking about my wife, she would take your first sentence as an insult.
An informed consumer is a good thing. Also, don’t make assumptions.
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Calidad
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Yeah OK whatever I bet she’s doing side show burn out competition between sports practice drop offs also.
Runs on E85 about 75% of the time.
Just filled it back up on it after a week on the Stock tune, because we pulled my Dads Racecar 500 miles and I knew filling up was going to be a pain. Lucky I did it, cause only 87 was available.
ZFG’s E85 Tune will hustle this Limited Max on Stock 22’s to 60 in 4.7 Seconds.
OP, Sorry for the de-rail. Hope the wife chooses the Expedition.
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Dice Roll
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My 19 has been good. Only 5k so far because pandemic hit right as we got it.
spanz
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make sure the entertainment things you want to use are available in the 2019. Things like Apple Carplay, etc., may not be supported in 2019, or might need some sort of software update for $.
rick619
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Is the 'Class IV Trailer tow PKG' same as max tow? Or is that different?
Looking at certified used '18 that only has 17K miles and is $15K less. No 4WD, but probably don't REALLY need that.
Looking at certified used '18 that only has 17K miles and is $15K less. No 4WD, but probably don't REALLY need that.
Nope. If it has the brake controller and backup knob you have Heavy Tow.
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Huh? ALL 4th Gen Expeditions are Android Auto and CarPlay capable!
Heck all 2017 3rd Gens were too, and 2016’s were AA, and with a Hub swap were fully CP capable.
Yes, updating them is good, can add features and decreases bugs.
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Calidad
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Umm this isn’t Toyota lol.
Apple car play has been in the mix since mid 2016
rick619
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So looked at a new black XLT for around $60K, mostly just to see the middle bench seat. The '19 had the dual captain's chairs. Dealer said the black one is the only new one they have.
Also saw a couple used ones just to see some of the options. Haven't seen any that have the max tow pkg.
It is a bit scary how they can't get new stock because of the microchip and other supply issues. Seems like that kills your bargaining power a bit since they know supply is scarce.
Wife is much more patient than I am. She's considering a custom order so we can get only the things we want. That will also give her some time to come up with a larger down payment. I figure that might be the only way I will get the max tow pkg unless I can talk her into the blue '19.
Also saw a couple used ones just to see some of the options. Haven't seen any that have the max tow pkg.
It is a bit scary how they can't get new stock because of the microchip and other supply issues. Seems like that kills your bargaining power a bit since they know supply is scarce.
Wife is much more patient than I am. She's considering a custom order so we can get only the things we want. That will also give her some time to come up with a larger down payment. I figure that might be the only way I will get the max tow pkg unless I can talk her into the blue '19.
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I have a bit over 27K on mine. Continuing my saga, it was at the dealer Monday and Tuesday, was told “we will only replace 1 front strut and both rear shocks, but they are all backordered until 3rd week of June and oh by the way, you’re on your own for a rental car, we may be able to get you a loaner for a week of that”. I had already rented a car so $600 of my money already invested in the “project”. Brought my Expedition home and on Wednesday called a local repair shop to inquire about getting parts and putting on BOTH front struts on my nickel. He called back 15 minutes later to tell me he would have them Thursday. Thursday I drove over to drop off and when checking in I asked where he got the struts and my jaw hit the floor when he told me - he got them from the dealer who told me they were backordered until late June. Nice job Ford! Another $750 of my $$ is now going for a repair that could have been done in a timely manner under warranty. I’ll be calling corporate (yes, good luck with that) to see if they will make things right - LOL - chances rated at between zero and negative 5 but I’ll get it off my chest.
Really sounds like you have a dealer issue and not a FORD issue. I would be standing in the Service General Manager’s office having a not so nice discussion. Next would be the General Managers office. I would NOT be paying out of pocket for struts that should be covered under warranty.
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Calidad
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Skip the dealer send Ford a direct message. Our Subaru dealers in our region are so bad the only way you can get warranty fixes done correctly is to tell Subaru directly and make sure the Area rep checks the work.
warranty work is typically a shop loss for the dealer especially if its a $400 oil change dealer, you know the type.
Sounds like we have different philosophies, and my dealer must be good. In 20+ years dealing with them on various vehicles, I have never had to call corporate. I have had my share of issues. I address it with the local managers, and have never not had anything resolved.
If I was them, I would hate you. Jumping to higher, before even trying to address it local. Sorry you have had a bad experience with a Subaru dealer, but that doesn't mean every dealer for every brand is like that.
