Brake light, ABS light and traction control lights

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2012 Expedition EL Limited RWD, 180,000 miles. Driving yesterday and all of these lights popped on all at once. Message center says Check Brake system and service advanctrac. No driveability issues, full of fluid, everything seems to work as it should. Was thinking speed sensor or ABS sensor..just seems odd to be all at once, also may not be connected but when the blinkers are turned on there's no clicking sound while the light flashes as usual... Any ideas are appreciated.
 

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I broke my ABS speed sensor on accident putting new struts on, I have all the same alerts. I presume the information that sensor provides is integral to the stability/advancetrac, hill descent, etc. systems. I have the part, just need the time. I’ll report back when I get it done and if it solved the alerts.
 
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Went and got a basic ABS reader today...pulled code B1342... Can't really find any specific info on it...it's all basic info, apparently that code doesn't narrow anything down except there is a communication failure with the ECU somewhere...well...no sh*t‍♂️
 

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https://www.explorerforum.com/forum...ight-and-tcs-warning-traction-control.427275/

You might read through that and see if it helps but like you’re saying sounds like abs Ecu. My dads is bad on his 03 super crew and he can’t be bothered to fix it but again there’s no traction control lights to drive him nuts just the loss of abs. In your case loss of traction control snd the A4WD system depends on it.


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https://www.explorerforum.com/forum...ight-and-tcs-warning-traction-control.427275/

You might read through that and see if it helps but like you’re saying sounds like abs Ecu. My dads is bad on his 03 super crew and he can’t be bothered to fix it but again there’s no traction control lights to drive him nuts just the loss of abs. In your case loss of traction control snd the A4WD system depends on it.


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Thanks, I'll check that out. Will most likely end up taking it somewhere to get a detailed diagnostic. I'll report back my findings.
 
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Took it to my local, trusted mechanic this morning...looks like its ABS module, which has to be programmed by the dealer...guess I'm making a trip to the them over the next few weeks. He said it shouldn't effect the driveability just won't have anti lock brakes..
 
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Doing some further reading and research...I found a used motorcraft abs module on ebay with a 3 yr warranty. Anybody every changed one of these? Looks easy enough to get to just not sure what all is involved.. Will this need to be re-programmed by the dealer for my vehicle and is that even possible?
 

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Doing some further reading and research...I found a used motorcraft abs module on ebay with a 3 yr warranty. Anybody every changed one of these? Looks easy enough to get to just not sure what all is involved.. Will this need to be re-programmed by the dealer for my vehicle and is that even possible?
I prefer this method to fix most things "electronic" related:

Me: "Call me when its done"

Ford Service Department: "Ok"
 
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Currently at the dealership...Electronic portion of the ABS module being replaced and programmed. Should be ready tomorrow....$1100 later...‍♂️
 

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I have this exact same issue. Can you tell me a bit more about the receipt. What part(s) did they replace, how much was it, and how much was the labor?

My mechanic I normally use can't program the module so I'm looking for other options but want to avoid the markup from the dealer.
 

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Usually just a wheel speed sensor when you get the three codes; $58 from Motorcraft. You need a Ford enhanced code reader to determine which wheel has the problem.
 

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Switching out ABS sensor solved my issues. Sorry to hear y’all are having bigger problems.
 

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Usually just a wheel speed sensor when you get the three codes; $58 from Motorcraft. You need a Ford enhanced code reader to determine which wheel has the problem.

Switching out ABS sensor solved my issues. Sorry to hear y’all are having bigger problems.

This appears to have reared it's ugly head today to me all a sudden. 3 lights on dash lit up, ABS, Brake and Skid-control as well as warning to check Brake system and Service Advance Trac.

Will take it by my local mechanic Monday and hopefully it's just a sensor gone bad. They installed sumo spacers recently in rear and I installed front and rear sway bars as well, wondering if they or I could have damaged a sensor?

Is Ford the only ones that can tell you which sensor it bad if that is it? Or it's possible that my local shop may have a system to read the Ford details?
 

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If your local shop has real Snap-on or other professional equipment, their Ford-enhanced reader will tell what wheel sensor is giving the problem.

You may want to check the plugs on the front sensor wires.
 

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This appears to have reared it's ugly head today to me all a sudden. 3 lights on dash lit up, ABS, Brake and Skid-control as well as warning to check Brake system and Service Advance Trac.


Will take it by my local mechanic Monday and hopefully it's just a sensor gone bad. They installed sumo spacers recently in rear and I installed front and rear sway bars as well, wondering if they or I could have damaged a sensor?

Is Ford the only ones that can tell you which sensor it bad if that is it? Or it's possible that my local shop may have a system to read the Ford details?

My Bluetooth obd2 scanner with forscan on my iPhone told me which one.
 

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My Bluetooth obd2 scanner with forscan on my iPhone told me which one.

I have an OBDLink Obd2 scanner as well, but unless I'm not reading it correctly it gives a vague somewhat answer...

I assume this is telling me right-side issue, but not front or back.

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Yeah, mine was definitely more clear in forscan-lite. What year is your truck, again?

2010 Expy. Was hoping I could figure it out and avoid the shop fees and hopefully just swap in a new sensor. Really hoping it's not the ABS ECU. Seems to come and go, not sure if breaking triggers it or bouncing down the road, haven't figured that out yet.
 

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