Engine Ticking Noise

[jourdan18]

Hi, I have a 2005 Expedition, King Ranch. There is a ticking sounds everytime while the engine is running. It sounds like it's coming form the back of the engine or close to the firewall, sounds like a lifter ticking. Should I add half a quart of tranny fluid in the engine and hope that the detergent in the ATF gets rid of the ticking sound? Any suggestions or similar issues encountered?

 

[jourdan18]

The sound is consistent on idle or high RPMs. I thought it was an exhaust leak and brought it to the shop and there wasn't any exhaust leak. Any experts on lifters, rockers, timing chain noises?

 

[rcreecer]

Engine noises should vary with RPM. Did you check your oil level? If you don't have a mechanic's stethoscope, you can use a ~ 3' piece of garden hose. Does it do it all the time, or only when parked/at a stop?

 

[05Bandit]

cam phaser

My wifes 05 EB makes a ticking noises i thought it was a lifter rattling. Turned out it was a cam phaser. Apparently its a common issue with them ticking and its not a cheap fix. Its located on the end of the cam. And when it wears out it start to tick. I have found a do it yourself on the internet but have not tackled the job yet. Hope this helps.

 

[jourdan18]

@RCreecer, the sound is constant, parked, stop, driving, and the noise stays the same. I'm getting it checked today. @05Bandit, I think you are right about the cam since the noise is on top of the engine and close to the firewall. I will let everybody updated tonight on what my shop finds out. Thanks guys.

 

[Crdmiami]

Yeah it's probably the cam phaser my truck has it too and all the expeditions I have seen with over 50-60k have that problem I am just riding it out the noise doesn't bother me to much does any one know If it's bad not to fix? What could happen if I continue driving it like this.

 

[rburch]

There is a TSB/recall on the cam phaser. If you are having the symptoms you should take it in and have them replaced.

 

[GEORGETOWN]

Check the AC compressor. Turn off the ac and see if the noise is still there
I have the same issue and thought it was the engine becasue it sounded just like the vales clicking and then it turned out to be my compressor. Dont know whats wrong with it but its still working fine so I am living with the ticking.
Its worth a try!
Good luck!

 

[jourdan18]

No luck! It was the timing chain guides that is worn out so now the chains are a little loose and that's whats making the noise. The kit cost $600.00 and labor is 12 hours total. A mechanic shop quoted me for $2,200.00 Dollars! So I'm just going to trade it in and get a newer rig if the price is right.

 

[Crdmiami]

I did the timing chain also becouse it was making noise but I still have. The can phaser noise also

 

[jourdan18]

I saw that there is an aftermarket cam phaser on you tube that shows a video with the bad cam phaser noise and after they installed the aftermarket one. The noise completely disappeared! I just hate to spend 900 bucks to replace both cam phasers tho...By the way the cam phaser was the one making noise on my expedition and not the timing chain tensioner.

 

[edadmartin]

cam phaser? what is that?

I also have a mild ticking ,I can hear it at idle most all the time. seems like left side near firewall. What is a cam phaser, what is the problem with just letting it tick on. What happens when it ticks? Is it not being lubed? When it goes completely what happens. Ive heard about a recall, where can I find out more about it? thanks

 

[Fanatic1074]

Hey guys these engines are prone to throw plugs as well anyone else having this issue check to make sure your plugs arnt loose or backing out.

 

[jourdan18]

@Martin, just google 2006 expedition cam phaser TSB Recall and it should pop out. For what I've heard the ticking is really annoying but could still run without having to fix it. I am getting mine replaced when it's time to replace the timing chain and tensioners, so you could kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

 

[jourdan18]

@Fanatic, the sparkplugs is kinda like a multi-piece (stupid design). The proper way to replace it is at room temp. (engine not running at least 8 hours). Don't apply more than 33 ft. lbs when loosening the plugs or theres a possibility that you will leave the outter part attached to the engine block and it's a pain to take it out and the kit extractor is expensive. They suggest to spray or two of carb cleaner on top the plug before you take it out and let it sit for an hour, loosen 1 turn and spray one more let it sit for 30 mins. then take it off completely. You don't wanna spray more or your engine could hydro lock.

 

[KC Dave]

Fanatic, The "throwing a plug" was on the regular 5.4 engine which would stip the threads and spit the plug out. Not the 3 valve 5.4 which had the 2 piece plug as Jourdan said (Those seized in the head). As for the problem in this thread, if it was a noisy injector, cam Phaser, or tensioner, wouldnt the sound or ticking speed up with engine RPM?

 

[masterhacker]

Ive noticed a tick with any triton v8 Ive ever worked on/with, there just there, doesnt seem to cause any issues

 

[VaBeachBlazo]

I also have the ticking noise in my 05, after searching and reading for a few hours, i read that it can caused by using the wrong oil or oil filter, the motorcraft has some kjnd of special valve in it, on person fixed it by tighting a loose spark plug, several people had warped/bad gasket from exhaust manifold.. then a good majority was cam phasers had to be relpaced, "VCT Solenoid" on a couple to fix it, there was alot of argument about using a heavier oil to fix it..im about to tackle this problem myself the tick is bothering the hell out of me ..."ehow.com" even touches on the issue here: http://www.ehow.com/way_5902854_5_4-ford-engine-noise-remedy.html

Dont mean to link a different forum but this link has alot of info on the 5.4L tick: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/772197-to-those-of-you-with-ticking-5-4l-motors.html

 

[edadmartin]

2006 expedition cam phaser TSB Recall

Ive searched the Ford tsb page and got no hits for a cam phaser recall,If you know where the link is ,could you post it? thanks

 

[Richard Lewis]

I just did mine it took me 8 hours labor and $180 in parts i could do it in half the time now i know were everything is at thats the price the dealer gave me $2400.00 i told them to f*** off the whole kit with tensioners and chain is only 180.00 dollars