I have a 2005 Ford Expedition that died on me about 4 weeks back while driving. I have change out the crankshaft sensor, driver side camshaft sensor, fuel pump, fuel filter, ignition coils, spark plugs, and air compressor, but I still can't get it to turn over to crank. My starter and fuses seem to be fine on the ones that I can check. Is there anyone who can give me some info what I need to check to try to get it running again.
Expedition won't turn over
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thesavo
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If you're getting nothing, not even crank, I would suspect the ignition wiring system.
Could be the ignition switch or there abouts.
I would also check the battery voltage. Is it 12 volts?
Can you turn the ignition to accessory or run? Does the radio work in either? ,do o the cluster bulbs prove they work in run?
Do you have a cheap obd2 reader? If so you could pull a trouble code if there are any.
It could any any the following
- neutral safety switch.
- ignition switch.
- transmission range sensor (gear shift).
- associated wiring with any of the above.
- starter relay.
I would ignore the following for now, but not entirely. By the sound of your issue it's the above list not the following. However, the below could.
-PATS - coded ignition key. This is only checked on startup. It will not cause ignition failure during operation. Also, Older Ford products will crank and not start, while new Fords after ~2007 won't crank. All Fords will read the key on start-up only, It will produce a solid cluster light reading SECURITY or padlock icon on programmed key (good read). It will flash about 7 times a second if it's a bad read or non programmed key.
Since it died while driving, I'm guessing it didn't sputter or the like. Did it feel like it would if you turn off the ignition then coasted?
It would help to have a code reader, but even a circuit test light helps. Clip it to the battery negative terminal. This will tell you if you have a 12v source at the ignition, then each subordinate wire as you click though each stage of the switch.
Here are some links to check.
Nuetral safety.
https://workshop-manuals.com/ford/e...afety_switch/component_information/locations/
Column gear shift.
Try starting in neutral instead of park. Try also reverse or drive. Have a parter wiggle the shifter as you crank.
This is pulled from a taurus forum. But is generalized to match all vehicles. It's a good read though about no-start issues
https://www.taurusclub.com/threads/...ensive-no-start-troubleshooting-guide.174401/
The nice thing about Ford products is that the wiring diagrams are cheap. They're un $20 from eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/333501366525
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Could be the ignition switch or there abouts.
I would also check the battery voltage. Is it 12 volts?
Can you turn the ignition to accessory or run? Does the radio work in either? ,do o the cluster bulbs prove they work in run?
Do you have a cheap obd2 reader? If so you could pull a trouble code if there are any.
It could any any the following
- neutral safety switch.
- ignition switch.
- transmission range sensor (gear shift).
- associated wiring with any of the above.
- starter relay.
I would ignore the following for now, but not entirely. By the sound of your issue it's the above list not the following. However, the below could.
-PATS - coded ignition key. This is only checked on startup. It will not cause ignition failure during operation. Also, Older Ford products will crank and not start, while new Fords after ~2007 won't crank. All Fords will read the key on start-up only, It will produce a solid cluster light reading SECURITY or padlock icon on programmed key (good read). It will flash about 7 times a second if it's a bad read or non programmed key.
Since it died while driving, I'm guessing it didn't sputter or the like. Did it feel like it would if you turn off the ignition then coasted?
It would help to have a code reader, but even a circuit test light helps. Clip it to the battery negative terminal. This will tell you if you have a 12v source at the ignition, then each subordinate wire as you click though each stage of the switch.
Here are some links to check.
Nuetral safety.
https://workshop-manuals.com/ford/e...afety_switch/component_information/locations/
Column gear shift.
Try starting in neutral instead of park. Try also reverse or drive. Have a parter wiggle the shifter as you crank.
This is pulled from a taurus forum. But is generalized to match all vehicles. It's a good read though about no-start issues
https://www.taurusclub.com/threads/...ensive-no-start-troubleshooting-guide.174401/
The nice thing about Ford products is that the wiring diagrams are cheap. They're un $20 from eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/333501366525
Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
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I think you may have to start at ground zero. Do you have spark?Do you have fuel? Etc.
With all the parts swapping you've done .. you may have multiple problems now. That's why it's best to diagnose a problem before parts swapping. That may not help you but it may help someone else.
With all the parts swapping you've done .. you may have multiple problems now. That's why it's best to diagnose a problem before parts swapping. That may not help you but it may help someone else.
stamp11127
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Where in GA are you located?
Can you read wiring diagrams?
Do you have a test light or meter?
Why were those parts you listed changed - just for the no start?
Can you read wiring diagrams?
Do you have a test light or meter?
Why were those parts you listed changed - just for the no start?
stamp11127
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**** and another one disappeares...
Why do we bother?
Why do we bother?
getdealtwith
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Because for every flake, there's somebody like myself who just solved his no-start issue in 10 minutes with your guidance in the 04 Navi No Start-No Crank thread. Thanks!
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