Gumby
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Early 18 here and already had 2 Cam Phasers done. No message on my app. But I still can't get rid of the 18N01 FSA that is like a ***********...
Ford field service action number 21B10
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Deadman
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I'm hoping they don't do a death tune like Doge did back in their 5.9L gas days. They did a re-flash on all the pcm's to reduce pinging from bad gas and when they did it, the refresh took it from like 240HP down below 200HP. It was an unbelievable power loss from that and it was perminant you could not go back. I sold the truck, it was absolutely gutless.
Haha, I didn't know that they have a habit of doing this. Ram did the same thing couple of years ago with their small diesel engine to bring emissions down! The trucks became gutless after the update.
MxRacer965
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I have a tune as well from 5 Star and I e-mailed them. They advised that the stock tune be put back in and let them know if the strategy code changed. They said no charge for an update if it is needed.
Had the message show upp on my Fordpass app and the next day dissapeared. Called in to dealership to schedule appt and was told that Ford made a mistake and sent out a mass notification and that it doesn't apply to my 2018 Limited.
I had my cam phasers replaced early last year and have been great so far after ~20k miles (knock on wood). I do have the wastegate rattle, but I can live with that as long as the cam phaser rattle doesn't return... That noise was awful. I'm sure my neighbors loved it when my expy started at 6 AM, lol.
Never got a message about a TSB. I have a 2018 limited.
Never got a message about a TSB. I have a 2018 limited.
aggiegrad05
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Ha! Mine is now gone too! How weird.
Oklahoma Jim
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I haven't seen a notice for my 2018 Limited. Maybe it doesn't apply to our trucks.
Mine disappeared, as well.
MxRacer965
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+1 that had this show up in the app and it has disappeared. I wasn’t very inclined to bring my vehicle in for this anyway. I fail to see how software would have fixed this issue to begin with, plus I didn’t want to mess around with getting a refreshed tune, assuming it was needed.
Eddie1965
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Oct 2019 build; no message
Expedition Dave
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2020 no message other than the usual useless spam.
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5280tunage
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5TH set? WTF? I'm not a litigious person but that's getting to the point at which one has to be getting pretty pissed. What that tells me is there truly is no fix for this issue. Secondarily, to be cracking open the engine that many times, something is going to go major wrong, something will break, leak, something. Is it time for a completely new engine at this point? I'm upset for you @Deadman.
A TSB is to quiet the complaints without great costs to manufacturers. That is because a TSB has limited life span and repair costs return to buyers, eventually some people with the problem will get screwed for lack of businesses fixing a known problem.
A Recall is forever and the problem, and costs are the manufacturers responsibility, never goes away. To think Ford, or any manufacturer is doing customers a favor is only wishful thinking. They all use legal speak for protections.
It seems mechanical problems are determined to be electrical, or the reverse, to confuse the problem and manufacturers get of on a technicality and customers are forced to eat poop with their own money. Welcome to personal responsibility.
A Recall is forever and the problem, and costs are the manufacturers responsibility, never goes away. To think Ford, or any manufacturer is doing customers a favor is only wishful thinking. They all use legal speak for protections.
It seems mechanical problems are determined to be electrical, or the reverse, to confuse the problem and manufacturers get of on a technicality and customers are forced to eat poop with their own money. Welcome to personal responsibility.
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5280tunage
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Not sure about WI, but in my state, all of the issues have to happen in the first year of ownership for it to qualify. Kind of sucky when you consider sometimes with backorders it can take 2 months to get parts, 1yr isn't very long. And then what, they buy back the car at what they say is fair market based on it's MSRP, but with a lack of supply, prices are pretty high right now, and of course you get no credit for anything you've done to the vehicle. Nice to have a newer car, but it's a decent loss too.
I leave vehicles at dealerships until repairs are completed for warranty work. The Lemon Law in SC considered how much time I used the vehicle. The number of times I went to dealer, the time needed for repairs counted. I do not let them force a unsatisfactory vehicle on me to kill warranty time. The Lemon Law hard part is to get all your money back. They want to make it so expensive you will keep "the Lemon" instead of returning it.
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