Icon vs Kings.

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Just got off the phone with Kings and they are offering a suspension package now. The price is very close. Any opinions on which one is better.
Also the Border Patrol has expedition with the Kings.

Kings- total shipped no upper control arms = 4000.00

Icons- total shipped with upper control arms= stage 2 = 4200.00
 

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Icons are valved and set up to match the vehicle. Kings are great but the do need to be dialed in and they're excellent as well.
 

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Just got off the phone with Kings and they are offering a suspension package now. The price is very close. Any opinions on which one is better.
Also the Border Patrol has expedition with the Kings.

Kings- total shipped no upper control arms = 4000.00

Icons- total shipped with upper control arms= stage 2 = 4200.00

Can bare spending 4 grand for some metal tubes and springs. Not unless you live off the grid and this is solely an off-road vehicle. That’s insane amount of money
 

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@Robert McMillan we can thank the Raptor for the excessive suspension technology... It's not for everyone but once you experience what is possible it's hard to ignore.

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If your truck is DD I'd stay Icon. I haven't seen the specs on the Expi king kit but if there are bypasses king bypasses are quite noisy and they click everytime they start to compress, ie hit any sort of bump. Icon and fox are much quieter.

Nice shocks are great but anyone know if there is a shop working on a hydro bump stop kit? It's still relatively easy to over drive the suspension without them. It's what caused "frame gate" when the raptors first came out. I'll have to go take a look at the stock setup when the rain lightens up...
 
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I ask the rep about the bumpstop but he said they dont have a kit for expedition. He said they have a bumpstop that I would have to weld and make a bracket for it.
 
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ARB-BP51s on my 4runner ruined me for life on upgrading suspensions on trucks. Going down at Fort Fisher NC and driving on the beach with no worry in the world about getting stuck. Running 50 miles an hour over whoops and wash border is amazing. Then going home in the smokey mts and having no trouble with the terrible forest service roads to camp and fish with my 5 girls is what dreams are made of. That's the reason in asking because I loved my 4 runner setup but baby girl 4 need a place to ride so we went with the expedition.
 

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I have never seen kings show up in a box that did not need to be tuned. Are they telling you they have them set up for the Expy? Do they have Comp/rebound adjustments? What’s the ride height adjustments? If you spent most your time off road it’s “Good To Be King”. Everything else Icon is more then enough.


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The lift adjustment is 2inch in the front and one inch in the rear. Fuzzy they are specifically made for the Expedition. They started making them because the Broder Patrol requested the shock for thier needs.
 

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They have been making vehicle specific kits for a while @Fozzy It's only when you get into the bigger shocks they only come untuned.

@Brian Underwood
Did they say what size bodies they went with? 2, 2.5, or 3"?
 

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They have been making vehicle specific kits for a while @Fozzy It's only when you get into the bigger shocks they only come untuned.

@Brian Underwood
Did they say what size bodies they went with? 2, 2.5, or 3"?

Even the SxS shocks need to be tuned. But they are a race application. The site says 2.5” front and back.
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Ooooh, do you have the install book for the rear? Would love to see pictures... I looked on their site and didn't see anything about the Expi kit...
 

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I cant post pictures or links yet but the item number are as follows.

Fronts- 25001-182A
Rears- 25001-183A

A is at the end is for the adjustable ones.
Also 4wd parts store online just put a link up
 

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there's a guy in phoenix with the icon kit. I've seen it in parking lots but never met the owner. it looks good. i ran icons on my tacoma and was satisfied with them. icon tests their vehicle specific kits pretty well before rolling them out. depending price of what you want to do there are a number of solutions to get the ride your looking for. at the price you quoted i would go icon. UCA's run between 800-1200 and if you're getting the billet icons they're a very nice bit of kit. personally id go with the delta joint ones as they'll stay quiet for a reasonable amount of time. im guessing that since you're looking at a kit you'd like minimal maintenance. maybe that's not the case. custom coilover's be it king or icon have a rebuilt interval, and rebuilds usually put your truck down for a few days to a couple weeks depending on the shop doing the rebuild or if they ship them out. you can convert to full gen 2 raptor swap in the font with all new factory ford parts for about 3k installed. if you can find the uca's/lca's used you can do it for a grand less. the factory wheel travel is atrocious and just a little lift won't net you a ton more. if you like the raptor ride you could certainly get it in the front. the back is really tricky because the axles pass through the frame limiting lift options with serious engineering and fab work. a new uca should allow for more travel up front. i doubt you'd be disappointed with the icon kit. i doubt the king kit would give you any benefit. i doubt the necessity of remote reservoirs. i mobbed my taco pretty hard and never had shock fade without resis. icon specs the same coilovers for multiple different applications some with and some without. their customer service is pretty good. id guess they'd be able to put together the same kit without resis for quite a discount making it cheaper than the kings and including ucas. we're kind of right on the edge of this thing being too new. if you can wait a little while bilstein will release its 6112 kit for the expi or you could just use the f150 kit up front. its not a fancy bypass setup but its so much better than stock in an f150 im sure it would perform similarly in the expi. my best friend did 6112's in his f150 after i convinced him of the pros nd cons. he's very satisfied with it. that's the best bang for your buck shock on the market. almost a 2.5 (its like 2.36 or something). my bilsteins on my 4runner are going on 60k miles without a hiccup and they're cheap enough to replace not rebuild. the f150 kit cost under a grand installed.
 
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