Heres my take as a life long ‘59y’ Ford fan.
Currently have a 64 F350, 66 F250, 74 F250 Highboy, 74 C1000, 2005 Excursion, 2013 F350 4x4, 18 F150 4x4 ecobust, 21 Ram 3500 6.7, and last and least 23 XLT Max high trim level.
Bought 2 Rams in 21 the 3500 diesel and a 1500 Rebel because we couldn’t get Fords.
We farm and ranch so stuff gets used and abused but maintained well.
Traded the 21 5.7 Rebel for the Expedition.
The Rebel rode better and was quieter on the road than the 23 Expedition does. Im going to drive the expedition till the 100K 5 Year runs out as the trade in dropped like a rock 18 months ago.
Got more for the Rebel than I could for the expedition at the same age and approximate mileage. Paid 18k more for the Expedition.
It’s straight up a piece of crap. Cheaply constructed like a Korean automobile. Rattles all over warped trim. Noisy HVAC, glitchy electronics, bizarre control interface making simple things complicated.
The best upgrades I have done to the Expedition have been 275/60r20 H rated Michelin Defender’s and an MPT 91 octane daily driver tune. The tune cured the dead pedal, the low speed sluggishness, the odd shifting and its quick. Passing is fun. The car is now bearable to drive.
Ford sucks. My local dealer Rhiebien Ford is awesome. Very customer focused and honest. Thats good because i get to see them often.
Im contemplating having the Excursion Limited taken down to the frame and restored with a Godzilla-6r140 with newer super duty coil spring conversion with the bigger brakes, new front seats and carpet, headliner, stereo, etc etc maybe some 18 or 20” factory rims
Probably spend 50 to 60k to make it as new.
Theres nothing new that interest me. Maybe a diesel suburban but GMs quality sucks almost as bad as Fords
Cant deal with Stalantis and its dealers.
Right now the Excursion is the most appealing option.
