Looking at 2019-4x4 & 2021-4x2 Limited, 303a Stealth package

[72stick]

We're in the market for a previously loved Expedition Limited with the 303a stealth package. I have located 2 units. One is a 2019 4x4 stone gray with 47K miles for $54K, and the other is a 2021 4x2 magnetic gray with 24K for $51K. The option my wife wants is the 2nd row bench seat. The 19 has the bench and the 21 has captain's chairs. I've read that you can install the factory Jumpseat in between the captain's seats. I like the 21 with he higher HP and 2 wheel drive. if I can make it a bench 2rd row that would satisfy the wife, but I'm open to the other if it's the best choice.

I'd really like to hear what owners of both like and don't care for about these 2 vehicles.

 

[KFordEx8]

if you have the full specs, post them both for a comparison.

 

[72stick]

if you have the full specs, post them both for a comparison.

Here's both stickers. @1 on top 19 on bottom. The 21 looks like the better deal, but I found another post of that car on TrueCar and it has Lemon on the title!

 

[2020FordRaptor]

We're in the market for a previously loved Expedition Limited with the 303a stealth package. I have located 2 units. One is a 2019 4x4 black on black with 47K miles for $54K, and the other is a 2021 4x2 magnetic gray with 24K for $51K. The option my wife wants is the 2nd row bench seat. The 19 has the bench and the 21 has captain's chairs. I've read that you can install the factory Jumpseat in between the captain's seats. I like the 21 with he higher HP and 2 wheel drive. if I can make it a bench 2rd row that would satisfy the wife, but I'm open to the other if it's the best choice.

I'd really like to hear what owners of both like and don't care for about these 2 vehicles.

I don't belive the 2021 has higher HP than the 2019.

 

[72stick]

Is the 304a stealth package the 400HP upgrade?

 

[dlcorbett]

Is the 304a stealth package the 400HP upgrade?

This is for the refreshed (2022+) trucks, not the 2021 your looking at.

 

[mdecillis]

Only the Platinum models got the 400 HP variant from 2018 to 2021.

 

[sjwelds]

Not entirely sure if you can install a jump seat without some work. There's threaded holes in the floor etc that I don't think exist on captain chair units. Could be wrong tho.

 

[KFordEx8]

Do they both have Heavy Tow Package?

 

[GixxerJasen]

I'd get the one with the bench she wants. Too much trouble to make her happy the other way. You want more power, tunes are cheap. Although, I'm partial to the magnetic gray, it's quite nice.

 

[dlcorbett]

The 21 has less miles and is cheaper and shouldn't have any cam phaser issues. I'd take that if I didn't need 4x4 to be honest.

 

[arock]

I am in the market for a used Expedition as well and that 19 seems a little over priced. Similar trucks are going for low to mid 40's (and dropping everyday), at least in the mid-atlantic area. The 21 should give you the updated safety tech that wasn't available in the 19 and the price seems a little more fair even with not being 4wd.

 

[72stick]

Do they both have Heavy Tow Package?

The 19 says class IV trailer tow pag and the 21 sat Class IV trailer tow prep pak

 

[72stick]

I am in the market for a used Expedition as well and that 19 seems a little over priced. Similar trucks are going for low to mid 40's (and dropping everyday), at least in the mid-atlantic area. The 21 should give you the updated safety tech that wasn't available in the 19 and the price seems a little more fair even with not being 4wd.

I'm thinking the same thing on the 19. I like the options, but it seems like they are pricing it for the 2022 market and not the 2023 reality. After I do an inspection and drive tomorrow, I was thinking of offering them an OTD price of 50K for the 19 or wait a couple months. I found the 21 on TrueCar and the title says LEMON.

 

[72stick]

I found a 21 w/o the 303a package and 34K miles, but he wants a lot for a 300a package that's only class IV TRLR TOW PREP PAK at $59K.
KBB says it's a $55K car. Even that seems high for a 300a package wi/o the Class IV TRLR Tow PKG.

 

[Fasttimes]

I wouldn't buy anything right now. Not sure if you're aware but the used market in just starting it's marketing correction. Wholesale prices are dropping 1% every 2 weeks. It's estimated that used market will drop another 20% at a minimum by year end. I was in the market for a used Platinum, but after doing the homework I expect the prices to drop at least $10k-$15k by end of year. I can wait.

There is a perfect storm coming to the used market, many people will be upside down on their cars. That car you are looking at for $50k will be easily $40k come end of year.

 

[dlcorbett]

If they don't plan on getting rid of the car anytime soon, then the value at year end will be kinda mute. It's 3 - 4 yr value that's more important.

Atleast this is how I justified my purchase.

 

[Fasttimes]

If they don't plan on getting rid of the car anytime soon, then the value at year end will be kinda mute. It's 3 - 4 yr value that's more important.

Atleast this is how I justified my purchase.

Agree. If you need one, you need one. Just make sure you go into negotiations knowing what's on the horizon. You'll probably get a better deal than you realize. Dealers are about to be in a bad spot on their used inventory. The vehicles on the lot are losing values daily and their advertising costs and what not is not.

 

[72stick]

Agree. If you need one, you need one. Just make sure you go into negotiations knowing what's on the horizon. You'll probably get a better deal than you realize. Dealers are about to be in a bad spot on their used inventory. The vehicles on the lot are losing values daily and their advertising costs and what not is not.

I'm not in a hurry to buy and I was going to test the waters to see if I can apply the forecasted drop to today's price to see if they'll come off their asking price. I don't expect any movement, but I can wait. This car is a buy-back from a customer who bought it and then traded it right back in on something shorter that fits in his garage. They've made their money on the sale already. They've had it for 120 days. Now they can either sit on it hoping someone will buy it for their asking price or wait till the market drops.

 

[dlcorbett]

Was their any notes on why the 21 was a lemon?