New to me Expy, already having problems

[Glenn B]

Got it back last night. Tie rods, ABS sensor, Camshaft A sensor, and couple other things. He said it did not need the fuel driver replaced - it looked like someone else had replaced it, but it wasn't snapped in properly. Seemed to run okay on the way home from the mechanic.

Started it this morning (it had rained part of the night) and I briefly heard the same squeak. It stopped though. Drove about 20 miles to work, pulled into the parking lot and it started chugging and shaking. No power to the engine, the "Check Gage" light started flickering then came on solid, then the truck stalled. It started right back up again, I pulled into the spot, and shut it off. Sigh.

Edit - I did have the AC on.

From my brief Google search, I saw some people saying false overheat warning (I did not notice the engine temp gauge when it happened.)

Glenn

 

[Glenn B]

Check engine light came on during the ride home, and it shakes and threatens to stall in stop-and-go traffic. There is also a hissing sound coming from the rear of the truck.

I am so pissed right now.

Glenn

 

[stamp11127]

Belts may/will squeal when a pulley or idler is locking up. Evidence may be an accumulation of small rubber bits around the area that has the issue. If it is bad enough the belt will break.

Sorry to hear about your investment that didn't solve the problem. Most shops toss parts at the problem hoping they get lucky. A true diagnosis may be time consuming that clients do not want to pay for, so shops take the long road and toss parts.

 

[1955moose]

Fuel pump control modules on these 2nd gen expeditions act up due to their location near the spare tire, exposed to elements. Hopefully they will tow you back there or can you drive it back. It's always a shame when you think your baby's fixed only to have a new set of problems. They'll figure it out, it's usually something simple. It's weird when you disrupt parts to fix a problem, new ones arise. Been happening since mans been working on internal combustion motors. Gets worse as cars get more complex. Let us know what they find.


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[Glenn B]

He's going to replace the belt this morning. The code it's throwing at the moment says there is an electrical problem. I don't recall it doing that earlier, but the mechanic said he noticed a wire near the alternator that isn't coated too well so he's going to start there. He's convinced that the fuel driver is not the problem - the engine was running pretty ragged, then he reseated the connector and it immediately started running better. So now I (once again) cross my fingers and wait.

Glenn

 

[theoldwizard1]

... He's convinced that the fuel driver is not the problem ...

CONCUR ! When they fail, the engine quits and will not restart.

 

[Glenn B]

CONCUR ! When they fail, the engine quits and will not restart.

When I first start the engine, there is a hissing sound from the rear. Is that something related to the fuel driver or something else? (For all I know it's just the rear AC coming on, but this thing has me so jumpy...)

Glenn

 

[1955moose]

Why not just turn off the ac completely and see if it still makes the noise.


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[1955moose]

06 models had a problem with ac thermostatic expansion valve that caused a hissing sound. You might look into that issue.


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[Glenn B]

06 models had a problem with ac thermostatic expansion valve that caused a hissing sound. You might look into that issue.

It's on my list of things to do as soon as I get it back.

 

[theoldwizard1]

When I first start the engine, there is a hissing sound from the rear. Is that something related to the fuel driver or something else?

The fuel driver module is all electronic. It can NOT make a noise !

 

[Glenn B]

Good to know!

I know, I sound like an idiot. I haven't had the thing in my possession long enough to even learn anything about it. I bought it in May, and it sat in my driveway or in the mechanic's lot waiting to be fixed. Maybe I'll get it back tomorrow, and maybe it'll work. Maybe not.

 

[Glenn B]

The mechanic is stumped. He's going to call a Ford place tomorrow morning. Crossing my fingers that it isn't a timing chain. I'm starting to understand why it was for sale so cheap.

Glenn

 

[1955moose]

Seems like the 06 model was the red haired step child of Expeditions. From all I've read, and participated on the forum, they do have more than their share of issues. I think I remember in one of your posts, you said it's running rough, and the code reading p0012 and p0345, involving camshaft advancing and retarding problems. If one of those malfunctioned it would definitely cause the issues your having. One of our members Habbibie had a similar problem with his, and his motor had a nuclear meltdown. Definitely have that shop or another if their not schooled on your SUV fix that issue ASAP. Running around retarded or advanced too far will cause headaches. Moose.


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[03 exp]

If the problem occurs after the engine gets hot then more than likely you are loosing oil pressure which will cause the codes that you are having! A lot of people try replacing all the timing components and tensioners and fix the problems others the only way is to try thicker oil or replace engine !

 

[03 exp]

Since you don't know where exactly are you loosing oil pressure internal to engine! Heads oil pump etc!! Good luck

 

[Glenn B]

Seems like the 06 model was the red haired step child of Expeditions. From all I've read, and participated on the forum, they do have more than their share of issues. I think I remember in one of your posts, you said it's running rough, and the code reading p0012 and p0345, involving camshaft advancing and retarding problems. If one of those malfunctioned it would definitely cause the issues your having. One of our members Habbibie had a similar problem with his, and his motor had a nuclear meltdown. Definitely have that shop or another if their not schooled on your SUV fix that issue ASAP. Running around retarded or advanced too far will cause headaches. Moose.

The camshaft A was changed, but the laboring power persists. However, he did say it was 2 quarts down. He added oil but it's still stalling out when coming to a stop. It runs great at highway speeds but stalls when stopping.

Glenn

 

[theoldwizard1]

The camshaft A was changed, but the laboring power persists.

WOW !! $$$$$

I think you need to find another mechanic. Too bad you are not closer to Avoca, NY. Erci O. at South Main Auto would fix it right for sure !

 

[Glenn B]

WOW !! $$$$$

I think you need to find another mechanic. Too bad you are not closer to Avoca, NY. Erci O. at South Main Auto would fix it right for sure !

I agree at this point. He's great for all around repairs, but he even said he needs to talk to someone at another garage who specializes in Fords. However, I did look at the error codes before taking it in, and it was referring to Camshaft A. So I am not surprised that he did swap it out, but I was hoping that would be the fix

 

[theoldwizard1]

Did he swap the camshaft or the camshaft position sensor ?