Purchasing a used 2017 EL - Rentals

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Both my Expeditions have been rentals that I bought at the same dealer. It is a small dealer in a little town between Rochester and Buffalo NY. Both were XLT with the HD tow package. They both tow a 30' travel trailer among other things. We got to see the Carfax for both. The 07 was a corporate vehicle for a company in Dearborn MI (I wonder who that might be). The 15 was a rental out west.

The 07 was bought in 08 and had about 30K miles on it. It had the self leveling air suspension. That gave me the most trouble on it. I replaced the compressor twice. I had to have the driver side power window motor and blower resistors replaced before it went off the factory warranty. I also had the common 5.4 problems like broken exhaust manifold bolts. I replaced the spark plugs and fuel filter myself. Around 80K miles the fuel pump died. Everything else was normal wear and tear.

The 15 EL was bought in 16 and had about 35K miles. It has heated/cooled leather, nav, power third row seats, power hatch, remote start. I replaced the spark plugs not long after I got it. I'm glad I did it because the gaps were all over the place. Other than that I've just done normal maintenance and drive it

When we looked at the 15 we went to look at a Ruby Red one. It had everything my Tuxedo Black one had. When my wife opened the passenger door to get in and I heard the creak we went and looked at another one. The front of the door was rubbing on the back of the fender. They also had a Blue Jean EL with fewer miles but it had the bucket 2nd row. We wanted the bench. Find the right dealer and you can probably just what you want.

By the way both were half of the sticker price of a new one.
 

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I've been stalking this site doing research on my next SUV purchase. Lots of great information here.

To be honest I was looking for a Sequoia as I traded in my 07 with 146,000 trouble free miles but yikes the price on the new and recently used ones is crazy. They start $8,000 + more with similar mileage and setup. For me it really came down to bang for the buck. I was using Carmax and autotrader to search for vehicles and prices, I found most Ford dealers locally had much higher prices than Carmax's advertised ones. If I don't see a good price on their website I don't even bother contacting them. I hate the game they play. I even searched for leftover 2017's with incentives as the redesigned 18s are out. I was surprised at the dealer asking prices on them.

I found a local small independent dealer who had one as well as car max. I let them know they were competing for my business and the small dealer won.

I purchased a former rental 2017 Expedition EL XLT, it's entire history was in Tennessee. It was $35k (asking price before trade) with 26,000 miles on it! It's the basic rental model, no leather seats or upgraded towing package. It checks out mechanically and the interiror and body are in great shape plus I still have Ford's remaining warranty.

It's been quite awhile since I owned an American brand as I've had much trouble with them. I'm talking about you dodge & chevy. While the Japanese brands I've owned have been nearly flawless.

So far so good but want this rig to last another 125,000 miles with normal maintenance. I do want to brag about how great a vehicle Ford makes. I am concerned and may purchase the ford extended warranty as a good friend of mine is having drive line(IWE) issues in his 16 F-150 4x4 Platinum that the dealer is have trouble fixing after multiple attempts. It didn't show up until he passed 30,000 miles. I looked through the F150 forums to see many were having a similar issue. I didn't see it reported here. So hopefully it's not a problem with Expeditions.

You're worried about a 3rd gen making it to 150k mi???

Total non-issue
 

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I've been looking now for the last 12 months so I have a good bit of experience under my belt. (Prices here are extremely high and it's hard to get a good deal, hence I'm taking my time until I find the right truck at the right price.) My current truck was an ex-rental from CA. It's in really good condition and it's given me no trouble, but it has no options (not even leather) so I'm looking to upgrade.

The 15-17 XLT models are a lot more "loaded" than in the past. (I think this is actually due to consolidating the wiring harnesses which actually saves Ford some money.) There are tons of used 2017s on the market right now. Most are fleet/rental.

The 2017 XLT commonly comes equipped in one of three levels:

  1. Stripped (i.e. cloth seats, few options)
  2. Leather plus maybe a few other goodies
  3. LOADED like a Limited


If you want a loaded XLT, look for one with Equipment Group 202A that includes Heavy-Duty Trailer Tow, Remote Start, Heated/Cooled Seats, Memory Seats/Pedals/Mirrors, Dual-Zone Climate, Ambient Lighting, 3rd Row PowerFold Seats, an 8-inch center dash touch screen, upgraded instrument cluster, and Premium Sound. After that, look for one that also has Navigation and Moonroof. Those were standalone options that were not included in the 202A package.

The main differences between a loaded XLT (202A) and a Limited include the outside mirrors (Limited comes with power-fold, integrated turn signals, and driver's side auto-dim), push-button start, rain-sense wipers, projector headlights, interior wood grain, and special options like power running boards, CCD and BLIS. So, as you can see, a loaded XLT has a lot of the goodies you get on a Limited.

The most important thing you can do is get a detailed history on the truck from either CarFAX or AutoCheck. While an ex-rental can be perfectly OK, for me I'm steering clear of anything that's been in an accident or has spent a significant amount of time on the road in Canada, the Northeast or the Midwest due to concerns about rust. For example, because they are cheaper we get a lot of Canadian vehicles here, but they nearly always have rust.
 

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I've been looking now for the last 12 months so I have a good bit of experience under my belt. (Prices here are extremely high and it's hard to get a good deal, hence I'm taking my time until I find the right truck at the right price.) My current truck was an ex-rental from CA. It's in really good condition and it's given me no trouble, but it has no options (not even leather) so I'm looking to upgrade.

The 15-17 XLT models are a lot more "loaded" than in the past. (I think this is actually due to consolidating the wiring harnesses which actually saves Ford some money.) There are tons of used 2017s on the market right now. Most are fleet/rental.

The 2017 XLT commonly comes equipped in one of three levels:

  1. Stripped (i.e. cloth seats, few options)
  2. Leather plus maybe a few other goodies
  3. LOADED like a Limited


If you want a loaded XLT, look for one with Equipment Group 202A that includes Heavy-Duty Trailer Tow, Remote Start, Heated/Cooled Seats, Memory Seats/Pedals/Mirrors, Dual-Zone Climate, Ambient Lighting, 3rd Row PowerFold Seats, an 8-inch center dash touch screen, upgraded instrument cluster, and Premium Sound. After that, look for one that also has Navigation and Moonroof. Those were standalone options that were not included in the 202A package.

The main differences between a loaded XLT (202A) and a Limited include the outside mirrors (Limited comes with power-fold, integrated turn signals, and driver's side auto-dim), push-button start, rain-sense wipers, projector headlights, interior wood grain, and special options like power running boards, CCD and BLIS. So, as you can see, a loaded XLT has a lot of the goodies you get on a Limited.

The most important thing you can do is get a detailed history on the truck from either CarFAX or AutoCheck. While an ex-rental can be perfectly OK, for me I'm steering clear of anything that's been in an accident or has spent a significant amount of time on the road in Canada, the Northeast or the Midwest due to concerns about rust. For example, because they are cheaper we get a lot of Canadian vehicles here, but they nearly always have rust.

So, you are recommending the OP get the Limited?
 

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You COULD just install aftermarket leather or seat swap and add a head unit


No reason to swap the entire truck based on interior amenities
 

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Some of us like the amenities. On the F150 forums a lot of owners are discussing how to add options that didn't come on their trucks. Unfortunately, tighter electronics integration these days means it's much harder to add some options to the vehicle after the fact. It's often much easier to purchase a truck that has what you want on it to start with. I've learned this lesson the hard way. . .
 

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So, you are recommending the OP get the Limited?

I was trying to point out that a loaded XLT has most of the equipment that comes on a Limited. In fact, a lot more features can be had on a loaded '15-'17 XLT than in the past. Where I live I can't seem to find very many low-mileage Limited models and the few that are on the market are fetching Platinum-level prices. There seems to be many more low-mileage XLT trucks out there.
 
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Put in an order for an off lease EL with my buddy who's a car salesman. Told him ANY color but white. What does he come back with ... WHITE! I bought it because it had everything else and you cant have everything you want in life. Turns out white is a great color, especially in summer out west in the blaring sun - much cooler than black! I just dont like driving it in a snowstorm.

I love the white el limited but I’m not thrilled about the while el xlt.
 
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