Rear sway install. The agony and ecstasy...

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Rear (and front) sway install. The agony and ecstasy... UPDATE bottom pg. 1 :)

Shopped, searched, researched, read. Finally found the Belltech bar for just over a hundo, new on ebay.

I have wrenched tons of cars and done lots of suspensions. Six bolts. What could possibly go wrong? How could this not be a half hour job from start to clean up?

Let's get the links off first shall we? Oh wait, the links aren't conventional. They have their own little joint and no bolt on the backside of the stud, so it just spins helplessly.

Ok, the end of said stud has a feature we can get a TINY 8mm wrench on to hold it. Let's try that... Better, but the bolt and but seem to really like each other and take a full half hour to separate.

The other side gets a full shot and soaking and cleaning and thread chasing. 10 minutes for ten threads. BAM! Screw you bolt.

Ok, let's get the frame bolts out of the way. 15mm. I have no idea what, if anything, on this truck is SAE, but it's not the suspension.

Good access. Turn, turn, turn, smile... Spin... Dammit. The bolts are not captive on top. Round heads again. Out come the vice grips to hold them. grrrrrr...

First one is another half hour while I figure out the technique. The other ones come out in a minute or so. It seems the studs are installed in their own frame with a single small and weak spot weld. Once this breaks. And it will. Have fun.

Installation, as they say, is in reverse order. Much faster, but no less frustrating and inefficient. It seems the truck is designed to be put together easily, but definitely not to be worked on.

Total install time was just under two hours for six bolts. Ugh.

Anyway, the bar says up to 2005. But the 2006 is, of course, a perfect fit. It comes with poly bushings and frame mounts. As well as a little tube of this nice clear grease. But not end links. Nice piece. About five pounds heavier than stock, which by the way seems appropriately sized for a honda civic. The belltech bar is a full inch. Really beefy.

I am running the stock bar up front and will report back with handling results.

All in a relatively straightforward install that is a total pain in the butt.
 
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I had some trouble but nothing like this and I did both front and rear in 40 mins...I used impact wrench and angled the wrench when taking off...I did have a guy help me with vice grips as well when doing this...the 4 bolts were the biggest pain in the frame...but got it...no wd40 or soaking in anything...the handling will be slightly noticeable...when the front is replaced...THAT'S when u will see the major improvements of handling...I love it the response and capabilities now...I have gone as fast as 52 mph through this specific s-curve...and still feel in complete control...before...no faster than 40 mph...and my wife would be screaming...no sound anymore...and that was with 24s...now I have 26s...still no problem

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Ok. Quick follow up.

The truck is an under steering pig stock. The thicker rear bar did not turn this thing into a sports car by any stretch, but the balance is much improved. Still predominantly under steer, but much less.

BTW, this is our tow/family rig. It is on stock 17" wheels and P tires. 18" LT rubber goes on next week.

Bottom line, for about a c-note, this mod is a total no-brainier for any mostly street driven truck.
 

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This post makes me feel a little better about the sway bar I installed on mine Tuesday night. I thought I was in for a hour long job at the most. It ended up taking me 2 1/2 hours.

The broken clips on the 4 mounting studs bolts were hard to remove once the clips broke but the real problem I had was trying to reinstall them. I ended up replacing them with regular bolts and nuts.

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Why aren't yall looking for the front bar? That what drives the sway...you've stabilized the rearnbut its really not done or at least only noticeable a little due to not having the front...put thw front on and u have a different truck

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The reason I went with the rear bar first was price. I got it on the same ebay deal as DinoShepherd. Belltech does not make a front bar. The Hellwig front bar is more than $250 so I wanted to see how I liked the rear bar first before spending more money.

So far I'm pretty happy with just the upgraded rear bar.

Joe
 
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OK. The process to turn this into a decent cross roader and tow vehicle continues. I added 275/65-18 LT tires and a front swaybar.

Tires made a huge difference. I went with BFG Rugged Terrains as the truck is mostly street driven. The sidewalls on the LT tires are way stiffer than the P tires and the 9" wheels widened the track up nicely. Overall height is slightly taller with no clearance issues.

For the swaybar, I went with the Hellwig unit which ran a couple hundred. I really like this unit on the second gen Expy as it does away with the notoriously weak factory end links and replaces them with a stouter and more conventional unit.

Speaking of factory end links... I hate these things. Went to take them off and found the need again to fight holding the inner bolt , while turning the nut, while working in a confined space. I checked it out, looked at the sun and decided to have the pros do it. One hour of labor well spent.

So the ride with the front bar is again a step in the right direction. Not a nascar handling machine, but much improved over stock or rear only. The bride didn't notice anything for what it's worth...

Next step will be some Bilsteins as I am sure the stock shocks are pretty beat after 8 years. All this is still just covering up for what is a VERY softly sprung truck.

Still trying to find some HD coils that are stock height. May have to get some made.

Stay tuned...
 
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I had my sway bars swapped in about an 1hr from putting on lift to driving of lift

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