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FYI, BF Goodrich is owned by Michelin as of around 1988. I like to think of BFG as the truck tire version of Michelin.
Replacement Tires for 22 Stealth
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FYI, BF Goodrich is owned by Michelin as of around 1988. I like to think of BFG as the truck tire version of Michelin.
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TonyR0206
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Binghamton here. It’s great to have members who are willing to share, and offer their experiences. It’s definitely swayed my decision on what I’m going to purchase.
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TonyR0206
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I just pulled the trigger on a set of Michellin Defender LTX MS2 tires. Thank you for your input. (Purchased through Tire Rack, with an $80 instant savings at checkout.) Should be here tomorrow. I shipped them to my local installer and will have them installed next week!
Our Pirelli AS Plus 3s are great so far. Unsure on the longevity, but we'll see. It was a hard choice between those and the LTX MS2s. I had those on the front of our Armada, and didn't like them as much as the previous gen LTXs that we replaced. There was definitely more road noise with the new ones and they seemed to tramline some.
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TonyR0206
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I decided on the MS2's. They seem very well suited for the long winters where I live. As expensive as they are, I hope I'm not dissatisfied with them!! The way I'm looking at it right now is, that ANYTHING is better than the General Grabbers that came OEM. They are the worst tire I've ever had on any of my vehicles. They were relatively quiet, but horrible wet traction and terrible snow traction.
Have Michelin CrossClimate2 on a ‘13 Honda Odyssey, they’ve been great and have the “mountain & snowflake” rating.
Have Michelin Defenders on ‘06 and ‘24 Expeditions, love them too.
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I put Cross Climate 2 on my wife's Mercedes E350 4matic wagon, she loves them. she got caught in the snow up near Lake Tahoe, said they were totally stable and drama free, had good traction even on a steep driveway with 4-5" of dry snow.
This is absolutely awesome! I am currently in the same boat and I think I'm leaning towards the Michellin Defender LTX MS2 also. I have BFG KO2's on my FJ Cruiser, and although I love them, I'm trying to keep the sporty "land yacht" look on my Expedition.
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Hi TonyR0206: I am glad to hear that you chose Michelins and I am pretty certain that you will be pleased with them! Being as I am a SoCal driver, I see very little snow unless we take a skiing trip up to Mammoth Mountain. So, once the snow weather sets in there, please keep us updated with your 'personal' experience with these Michelins. Your thoughts are important to me and most likely others, on here, interested in changing to new tires! Thanks again, Lance
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TonyR0206
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Will do!!
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TonyR0206
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Will do!
KOMaynard
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As a Syracuse native with a Northern commute, and an ‘18 on 22s, I’m also waiting to hear feedback.
You dodged a bullet on the Pirelli’s. Mine came with new Pirelli AS Plus 3’s when I bought it last year. They were awful in the snow, I compared it to driving on ice skates. I repeatedly would have the rear end sliding out; one of which sent me across the median and into a ditch on the other side of the road. They could not handle any kind of snow above an inch; and if ice was involved it was even worse. (I had the same tires on an ‘18 Durango and they were lights out. So I’m guessing they just don’t play well with the size, weight balance, or 4WD design of the expedition vs the AWD of the Durango). We’re now 40k miles down the road from when I got it, and they’re severely worn, and showing cracking like a dry rotted tire on the outer tread.
I was always a Goodyear guy, but they didn’t have an option for my Durango. I’m just starting to really research for the Expedition. I’ve debated Nexen’s; my wife’s Wagoneer has those from the factory; and they have performed very well (minus a clear alignment issue on the front end - apparently quite common on Wagoneers/Ram 1500s).
But your feedback, especially with winter weather making its first showing this morning, will be greatly appreciated.
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TonyR0206
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Binghamton here. I’ll update after the first snowfall we get. Believe me….I’m just as interested as everyone else on these, especially as they were a well-rated, expensive tire! lol
KOMaynard
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We got hit pretty good the last two days.
The ice skate like tires were very note worthy on the highway last night.
I’m really looking at the Michelin’s and the Goodyear Weatheready 2’s (they’re similar to the Goodyear tread we run on our cars at work, and they’re very tacky. Less mileage guarantee though).
Looks like I’ll be on a delay on the tires though, I think my transmissions CDF Drum has gone; so it’ll go to the transmission shop tomorrow. Unless there’s some crazy deal for the holidays and I just pre buy.
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I wound up pulling the trigger on the Michelin’s. They get installed Friday.
Mopar is running a buy 3 get 1 for $1, so it was a hell of a deal. Plus there’s an active rebate for them too, not sure if it’ll go through, but I’m gonna give it a shot. Also throwing a set on the wife’s Wagoneer too.
LanceExp2025
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That sounds like a wonderful deal, you got there! Good job there Maynard! I am pretty certain that you will be pleased with your new Michelins.
I don't think it was on this Expy tire thread, but I had written earlier that we had a new 2012 Expedition EL Limited that we bought new and it came from Ford w/ Perrelli Tires on it (don't remember the model name though). Never had any major problems with those Perrelli's' but they never seemed to ride very smoothly nor did they make you feel comfortable (handling wise) and especially so, when towing our 21' Day Cruiser boat. My wife mostly drove this 2012 Expy but in 2015, we and another couple decided to go to a NASCAR Race in Pheonix, AZ. I decided, 2 weeks before the trip, to put a new set of Michelins' on it before leaving on our AZ trip. The day after the new Michelins were installed on her Expy, my wife had driven 80 miles round-trip to a friends home in Chino, CA. She said it was like "driving a completely different vehicle". It rode so smoothly and handled like a slot car while cornering and going around freeway curves, too. Our friends were so impressed with how smooth it rode that they said they were going to buy an Expedition, when they got home. Which, they did. My wife isn't into the technicalities of cars so, when she excitedly commented on how much better the Michelins made the car ride and handle, I was impressed by that candid observation, Lance
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I just put a set of the Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 tires in 285/45R22 on my stealth. Pricing for 4 tires, mounted and balanced, was ~$920 before tax in Bergen County NJ. This was $300-$500 less than other shops and I've had my other car done this year, too. This model has rim protection, fyi.
$100 4-wheel alignment with before & after document.
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TonyR0206
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So, I've had not had the opportunity to drive these tires in snow covered roads, but I've driven them on some pretty slushy roads. So far, I'm impressed with them. The traction has been great. I'll update again once I drive in some more adverse conditions.
LanceExp2025
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I look forward to hearing about your Michelin performance when you're on Snow Covered Roads! Sounds good so far though. Lance
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