Spark Plugs, no more BS

[and0r]

Alright, contrary to everything written on the internet, and also on Youtube, there is no actual way to change these spark plugs. I have been putting the job off long enough, and it needs to get done NOW

Reaching the rear passenger plug is impossible, drivers side too.
There is no possible way to remove the rears without removing other significant components. All the guides and videos say you can do it without removing anything, or by only removing the fuel rail, but this is actually total BS. We need to face up to this fact. I can't imagine so many people pretend this job is even possible! If you say you can change these plugs without basically removing everything, than you are a total LIAR!!
NO ACTUAL VIDEOS OR PHOTOS EXIST **ON EARTH** OF ANYONE DOING THE REAR PLUGS.
I am convinced that nobody on earth has ever done these plugs!! all the information out there is just bad, or totally wrong!

So let's start with the basics,
I need help identifying components, so I can research on how to properly remove them.
If you can identify the component, please do so. But also include instruction on how to remove them, if you can!

Lets start off with these...
basically everything here needs to go, there is no question about it, I have all the proper tools mentioned on every guide on the internet, believe me, I have researched them all, but these components do actually need to be removed. I can't image anyone thinking otherwise.

(passenger side photo)

 

[and0r]

(driver side)

 

[Bedrck47]

What year are you referring to
I have never had any problems with any of the first gen expys Time consuming yes
03 and 04 same as 1st gen
2nd gen 3V engines They come out but they also may break

 

[and0r]

Man do you really tow that trailer in your photo? lol stop

(im joking around with you)

 

[and0r]

99 EB
2WD


5.4

 

[Bedrck47]

No problem towing it with the 01 However I now tow it with the 04 expy Need to update the pic

So what's your suggestion about it? Or comments or opinions?
Am always willing to hear others opinions
Or tell me something you see wrong with the setup

 

[and0r]

No problem towing it with the 01 However I now tow it with the 04 expy Need to update the pic

So what's your suggestion about it? Or comments or opinions?
Am always willing to hear others opinions
Or tell me something you see wrong with the setup

Way too large of a trailer for any gen expy, friend. The expy doesn't have the wheel base it needs for that kind of towing. You can be "half assed" and put a ton of weight on the tongue (over 1,000 pounds on top of what was already there) , which should alleviate many of the safety concerns,
but you really shouldn't be towing that trailer with any SUV. I can't believe there are no laws against it.
Do you ever drive downhill in that thing?
Oh I see you are from the east coast, lol no mountains.
Yeah I wouldn't tow that even if I lived in perfectly flat land such as you.

 

[and0r]

Trust me, you don't drive downhill in that ting

 

[Bedrck47]

So what length trailer is max

 

[and0r]

Why do you have an 04 EB, and not 03?

 

[Bedrck47]

Well that was what the other guy was selling His 04 Now what's the difference

 

[Bedrck47]

Way too large of a trailer for any gen expy, friend.

Do you ever drive downhill in that thing?

Oh I see you are from the east coast, lol no mountains.

Yeah I wouldn't tow that even if I lived in perfectly flat land such as you.

So what should be the max length???

Downhill?? East Cost?? NO Mountains??

WELL IT ISN"T THE ROCKIES but I have to assume you never been to the East Coast, PA, VA, NY W.Va. Plenty of mountains, Long steep grades. and then long downhill diving.

 

[Joseph Tator]

This thread turned sideways

 

[Bedrck47]

This thread turned sideways

Well you need to look at the original post and what he was complaining about Which was BS.

There are many on here and elsewhere that have been changing spark plugs for years and although they may be a PITA to change they are not impossible.

However I can understand his point and if someone has no experience in working on these engines or can not figure out how to use hand tool then he may have a good complaint But that is based on lack of experience or common sense

 

[Plati]

Alright, contrary to everything written on the internet, and also on Youtube, there is no actual way to change these spark plugs. I have been putting the job off long enough, and it needs to get done NOW

Reaching the rear passenger plug is impossible, drivers side too.
There is no possible way to remove the rears without ....

My buddy had a 1975 Olds Starfire & you had to lift and move the engine to change some of the plugs. These were the dark days of American cars. Expo - not so much.
Plugs can be changed!! The Expy Rocks and Rules.

 

[and0r]

I was under the assumption that only the 03 expy still had 1st Gen components.

I still think this is true.

Wasn't 04 the first year they actually installed the next gen engines?

 

[John Christopher]

No problem towing it with the 01 However I now tow it with the 04 expy Need to update the pic

So what's your suggestion about it? Or comments or opinions?
Am always willing to hear others opinions
Or tell me something you see wrong with the setup

I'm curious. What is the weight and length of your trailer?

 

[John Christopher]

(driver side)

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I understand your frustration at trying to change the rear plugs. I had my mechanic change mine because I though the job was too difficult. Quite a few members say they change them without a problem. One said he can change all the plugs and wires in about an hour and a half. I don't how he does it.

Maybe we can back on track and someone answer his questions.

 

[and0r]

I understand your frustration at trying to change the rear plugs. I had my mechanic change mine because I though the job was too difficult. Quite a few members say they change them without a problem. One said he can change all the plugs and wires in about an hour and a half. I don't how he does it.

Maybe we can back on track and someone answer his questions.

There actually is not a single photo or video or any evidence of ANYONE doing the rear plugs. The rear passanger side plug looks impossible even without any of the obstruction. With the obstruction is just a joke.

My buddy had a 1975 Olds Starfire & you had to lift and move the engine to change some of the plugs. These were the dark days of American cars. Expo - not so much.
Plugs can be changed!! The Expy Rocks and Rules.
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Yeah, removing the engine from anything "1970" is pretty simple. I rather remove the engine on a Starfire, than do these sparkplugs. Really I'm being honest.

Well you need to look at the original post and what he was complaining about Which was BS.

There are many on here and elsewhere that have been changing spark plugs for years and although they may be a PITA to change they are not impossible.

However I can understand his point and if someone has no experience in working on these engines or can not figure out how to use hand tool then he may have a good complaint But that is based on lack of experience or common sense

Actually it's not BS. PI highly doubt anyone who claims they can do these plugs. Not without removing components. Again, no evidence of anyone doing these plugs actually exists...

 

[Bedrck47]

I'm curious. What is the weight and length of your trailer?

Sent you a PM check your inbox