Why no 5.0 on new Expy’s?

[Machete]

If the 5.0 is suitable for the F-150, then why not offer on Ex?

 

[JExpedition07]

Same reason the 4.6 wasn’t offered

 

[3tonsoffun]

If the 5.0 is suitable for the F-150, then why not offer on Ex?

Bc they are slow AF.

 

[Trainmaster]

They need the V-6 to meet CAFE standards. They know if they offer V-8s, fewer would buy a V-6 and their corporate mileage would suffer. Perhaps with the relaxing of CAFE requirements by Trump yesterday we'll see an ability to offer more of what customers want.

 

[JExpedition07]

Bc they are slow AF.

Not according to Car and Driver

“Despite being somewhat grunt deficient versus the boosted six, the upgraded V-8 has little trouble returning solid results at the test track. Propelling the 5284-pound pickup from zero to 60 mph required just 5.9 seconds, only 0.2 second slower than the last 2017 F-150 with the 3.5-liter EcoBoost and 10-speed we tested. It’s also a 0.4-second improvement over a 2016 F-150 SuperCrew 4x4 with that year’s less powerful V-8 and six-speed automatic. The 2018 V-8 also ran the quarter-mile in 14.4 seconds, matching the EcoBoost’s time precisely. It even cleared the traps doing 98 mph—1 mph faster than the EcoBoost”

 

[3tonsoffun]

Not according to Car and Driver

“Despite being somewhat grunt deficient versus the boosted six, the upgraded V-8 has little trouble returning solid results at the test track. Propelling the 5284-pound pickup from zero to 60 mph required just 5.9 seconds, only 0.2 second slower than the last 2017 F-150 with the 3.5-liter EcoBoost and 10-speed we tested. It’s also a 0.4-second improvement over a 2016 F-150 SuperCrew 4x4 with that year’s less powerful V-8 and six-speed automatic. The 2018 V-8 also ran the quarter-mile in 14.4 seconds, matching the EcoBoost’s time precisely. It even cleared the traps doing 98 mph—1 mph faster than the EcoBoost”

They must not have tested it with the 450hp 3.5L V6. Ecoboosts smoke the v8s, boost launch 4WD and bye bye. Take a 2019 f150 3.5L and 5.0 identical body styles and put em on the track, ecoboost FTW. Shit, 5 star has a tuned expedition that outruns 5.0 mustangs. Only pro about a v8 is the sound, unless you throw on turbos but that’s comparing apples and oranges.

Watch here as in its stock and tuned form the Eco takes the W on same year, trim, and gear ratio 5 slow


Oh and btw, I run a 5.6 0-60 in my 6400lb 2016 EL on 35s.

 

[JExpedition07]

They must not have tested it with the 450hp 3.5L V6. Ecoboosts smoke the v8s, boost launch 4WD and bye bye. Take a 2019 f150 3.5L and 5.0 identical body styles and put em on the track, ecoboost FTW. Shit, 5 star has a tuned expedition that outruns 5.0 mustangs. Only pro about a v8 is the sound, unless you throw on turbos but that’s comparing apples and oranges.

Watch here as in its stock and tuned form the Eco takes the W on same year, trim, and gear ratio 5 slow


Oh and btw, I run a 5.6 0-60 in my 6400lb 2016 EL on 35s.

More aftermarket power available with the V8, Whipple her up. Turbos have no place on a V8, they just destroy the exhaust note and don’t sound nearly as nice as a blower.

 

[JExpedition07]

I mean just listen to that, I ******.

 

[3tonsoffun]

Putting turbos on a V8 are for girly boys, cool cats run Superchargers. V8 also has the pro of more aftermarket power, you’ve got to pay to play as they say, nothing beats a blown V8.....except maybe a blown V12.

I’d like to see a supercharged 5.0 f150 put down numbers TO THE WHEELS like this 3.5L ecoboost with e85.

Here’s a roush SC stage 2 kit dyno on a 2017

And here’s a whipple


Again, way more potential with the twin turbo ecoboost. All the ecoboost did was at a HPFP and run e85 lol

Imagine if it had crp performance turbos, intake, intercooler and charge pipes, downpipes, exhaust, tstat, Meth injection. All standard upgrades for ecoboosts.

 

[JExpedition07]

None of those graphs are for the stronger blowers nor are they 3rd gen 18+ 5.0 engines. 3rd Gen 5.0 with the added compression bump to 12.0:1 and the direct injection = more boost. 721 horsepower on the dyno with a stage 2 Whipple blower on a 3rd Gen 5.0. The V8 has more power potential = Fact.