2010 ---> 2015 Front end conversion

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Flippingroc

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Hey guys- Long time 08 Expedition owner... Im just shy of 305K on it- all on orig drivetrain btw- and gonna try to go as high as it will take me. Was looking to get a 16/17 but got a sick deal on a fixer to "add to my fleet". Bought a damaged 2010 Limited MAX for $1,500 and it needs a front end. Was going to just put another 2010 front end on it... but I thought hey- why not look into a 2015-2017 front end. Anyone know of anyone to do the "conversion". Either way I'll need to put a front end on it but I really like the '15 update... Hood and fenders are the same for 08-17's so it looks like just the bumper, fogs, headlights and grill... Couldn't find a thread on someone doing it.
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The only challenge will be the cost; later model wrecks are more expensive. And you'll probably have to switch some connectors on electrical harnesses. Maybe some minor changes in supports or dill holes in the frame or radiator support.

Let us know if you do it. Fun project!
 

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I got a quote from Ford a while back and started a thread on ford-trucks.com before I joined here. If I remember right parts alone were around $5,500.00
 

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I got a quote from Ford a while back and started a thread on ford-trucks.com before I joined here. If I remember right parts alone were around $5,500.00
Yeah I got a price quote of roughly the same while still being told nothing would fit. Clearly they just say what the computer says fits instead of having an imagination. I passed when I struggled to find use parts but may take another go at it since I'm sire there are plenty of wrecked 15-17 out there now
 

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I met a lot of naysayers along the way. Most everything fits and you don't have to change the fenders. Worst pain for this whole job was paying $400+ for a quart of paint. Stay tuned for the complete play by play with pics.
 

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I personally like the look of the 07-14 front end better, so I could never see myself doing it. I also like the 2nd gens, again wouldn’t do it the 2nd gen to 07 conversion either. Everyone’s got their own taste I guess.

Will be cool to see the results.
 

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Worst pain for this whole job was paying $400+ for a quart of paint.


Whoa. I hate seeing a guy get completely taken advantage of like that. That is 100% highway robbery.

You can get a full GALLON of PPG/Deltron, House of Kolor, Sikkens, etc - all the name brands, for under $300 without even trying. And you paid $400 for a quart??? I've got some reducer I'd love to sell ya...




I'd probably have to dremel out the 12 or so rectangular honeycombs in the lower 2015+ bumper. Because all I see is a spectrum analyzer:

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Agree Flex – I’m having some corrosion issues fixed on my ’13 Expy’s tailgate, and I was quoted $75/pint for some Ruby Red Metallic to finish the repair. That would be $150/quart if needed.
 

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I've been rebuilding a wrecked 17. It needed a fender, hood, bumper & grill assembly etc. Insane prices. Even used. My search was a little more tricky because I wanted the right color too so I didn't have to paint them. The hoods are the same 07-17. The fenders are the same outside of having to drill one hole for a headlight mount. Very easy. The 15-17 grill, the nicer headlights and the bumpers are absolutely gold to everyone right now.
 

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I should have mentioned it is a Cashmere Tri-Coat which not everyone makes a formula for. Nason for one. I gave my painter a lead for a brand that a Carquest store carries and he checked it out and we can do this much less next time. Right.....next time.
 

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I think the 15-17 stuff is more expensive because of a few reasons:

There really was never many 15-17 expys sold, not attractive for A/M companies to make parts for it. Ford only built it for 3 model years, so again more pricey to cover their end on the change up. It’s economy of scale...not close to the # of units out there as the 3rd gen so to cover you have to charge more for parts. The more you can make the more efficient to produce.
 

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Sort of related/sort of off topic/mostly a threadjack...

I feel like I'm the only person interested in a 2010 Expedition-to-F150 conversion. Not for the looks, but I'd really like to have the grill pop open with the hood to provide access to the radiator and area behind the bumper for winch controls and the like.

Not sure what would be involved in the swap but the functional results would be nice. I'm sure it would be a bigger job than just swapping the hood and grill, but if/when I need to address the paint flaking off the hood I may look into this.
 

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I've been rebuilding a wrecked 17. It needed a fender, hood, bumper & grill assembly etc. Insane prices. Even used. My search was a little more tricky because I wanted the right color too so I didn't have to paint them. The hoods are the same 07-17. The fenders are the same outside of having to drill one hole for a headlight mount. Very easy. The 15-17 grill, the nicer headlights and the bumpers are absolutely gold to everyone right now.



Soo ... it only need a drill and the parts or am going to be welding some stuff on my 2012
 

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There is welding involved. The radiator support needs to be partially updated with the newer one and the front frame horns need to be changed to hold the bumper reinforcement bar. Minor welding project. I never did post the progress pics of my conversion. Sorry gentlemen. Not enough time in a week it seems. It's finished and you cant tell its not a 2017 front or back. 20181215_072151_resized.jpg
 
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