A/C Z134A vs. R134A

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HawkX66

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I need to re-charge my a/c after being completely empty. I was thinking about giving this Z134A stuff a try. It seems a lot cheaper and is compatible. Has anyone tried it?

Here's a quick comparison I did:

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https://www.amazon.com/ZeroR-Z134-R...1190763&sr=1-8&keywords=R134A#customerReviews

From their ad:

ZeroR Z134 is an R-134a replacement. Z134 is a natural non ozone depleting formula unlike R-134a that is being phased out.
  • Z134 is a 6 oz can equal to 16 oz of R-134a. Z134 has a higher operating pressure which requires less liquid. See our conversion chart for more information.
  • ZeroR Z134 is a flammable product but is safe to use and will not cause your A/C system any harm.
  • Cans have the same thread as R-134a cans making all tools interchangeable.
  • Contains less than 1% of non uv dye and is not significant enough to leak test a system.
 
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The damn govt and their regulation of refrigeration. Seems like we just got most stuff over to R-410A and now they want to phase it out. R-12, R-22 ($900 per jug), and now 410A are all on the brink. Now they have manufacturers filling systems with propane which puts all professionals and inhabitents in danger when servicing the system as it’s highly flammable and explosive. I used good ol’ R-134A out of a 30 pound jug when I replaced my A/C system in the expy in July.
 
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The damn govt and their regulation of refrigeration. Seems like we just got most stuff over to R-410A and now they want to phase it out. R-12, R-22 ($900 per jug), and now 410A are all on the brink. Now they have manufacturers filling systems with propane which puts all professionals and inhabitents in danger when servicing the system as it’s highly flammable and explosive. I used good ol’ R-134A out of a 30 pound jug when I replaced my A/C system in the expy in July.
I hear you. As far as which one, I could care less. I'm just looking at dollars and cents. Is the Z134 as good as the R134A functionally?
 

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"Higher operating pressure" is all I needed to hear to say no to Z134

Ever have one of those hot days where it seems like the AC is struggling to keep up or takes forever to cool down? You will have more of those days at a lower ambient temp with the higher operating pressure!

Z134 should have a larger condenser similar to how the 410a condensers are huge compared to R22.
 

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The damn govt and their regulation of refrigeration. Seems like we just got most stuff over to R-410A and now they want to phase it out. R-12, R-22 ($900 per jug), and now 410A are all on the brink. Now they have manufacturers filling systems with propane which puts all professionals and inhabitents in danger when servicing the system as it’s highly flammable and explosive. I used good ol’ R-134A out of a 30 pound jug when I replaced my A/C system in the expy in July.
Mo99 was the propane base refrigerant and it is the biggest pile of crap! Everyone down south jumped on board because it was a drop in for R22 and was cheap. The problem with leaks could be a serious issue so they don't want anyone using it anymore
 
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"Higher operating pressure" is all I needed to hear to say no to Z134

Ever have one of those hot days where it seems like the AC is struggling to keep up or takes forever to cool down? You will have more of those days at a lower ambient temp with the higher operating pressure!

Z134 should have a larger condenser similar to how the 410a condensers are huge compared to R22.
Sounds like you know something about a/c. I appreciate the heads up. Sounds like the juice isn't worth the squeeze. I'll stick with R134...
 

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Sounds like you know something about a/c. I appreciate the heads up. Sounds like the juice isn't worth the squeeze. I'll stick with R134...
I've been in the field for 20 years, Massachusetts refrigeration license for 17 years, Had my Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Connecticut Refrigeration license for 15 year's so... I guess I know a little.. ;)
 
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I've been in the field for 20 years, Massachusetts refrigeration license for 17 years, Had my Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Connecticut Refrigeration license for 15 year's so... I guess I know a little.. ;)
Considering I was born and bred in Mass, I guess I can't hold that against you lol :)
 
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