Coil SumoSprings

[Randy Schmidt]

Anyone install these on their Expedition yet? Want to know how it will effect the ride with CCD.

Thank you so very much.

 

[RustyOval]

I did on the rear of my '09 and I didn't really notice a difference in ride quality. I liked that squat when hitched up to my camper was reduced though. Well worth the money, but a PIA to install.

 

[Randy Schmidt]

I did on the rear of my '09 and I didn't really notice a difference in ride quality. I liked that squat when hitched up to my camper was reduced though. Well worth the money, but a PIA to install.

Yea, the installation looks like a pretty big pain. Did you just leave them installed all the time, or did you remove them at the end of the towing season?

Thanks.

 

[Zig10]

Yea, the installation looks like a pretty big pain. Did you just leave them installed all the time, or did you remove them at the end of the towing season?

Thanks.

The old ones must be different than the new ones. They took me all of 25 minutes to do both sides on my 2018. Put a little dish soap and water on them and they slide right into position on the springs. You don't even have to take the tires off. thread the zip ties and you're done.

 

[Fozzy]

The old ones must be different than the new ones. They took me all of 25 minutes to do both sides on my 2018. Put a little dish soap and water on them and they slide right into position on the springs. You don't even have to take the tires off. thread the zip ties and you're done.

I hope it is easy. I have the Ready Lift and think it will make it a big pain. Just waiting for a good warm weekend to try it. Anyone have them with the Ready Lift?


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[RustyOval]

Yea, the installation looks like a pretty big pain. Did you just leave them installed all the time, or did you remove them at the end of the towing season?

Thanks.

I left them on all the time and never had a negitive experience with them.

 

[sjwhiteley]

Yea, the installation looks like a pretty big pain. Did you just leave them installed all the time, or did you remove them at the end of the towing season?

Thanks.

I just installed them. I took the wheels off. It takes longer to take the wheel off than put the sumospring on. Still needs a little lube, but it goes in easy.

 

[Fozzy]

Put the Sumo coils spacers in tonight. I was worried with the 3/2 lift the springs would not open enough. But no problems. Left the tires on and used a board to push against the tire and pop them in. Super easy. Took me about 1 hour that includes dropping one and putting it in without checking if I put the deep grove in the bottom and had to take it back out and flip it. Took it for a drive and I can’t tell much difference with the CCD’s. Big test will be what my squat is with the boat on this summer.


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[TBaganATX]

Fozzy, what size Sumo springs did you get? I know there are 2 sizes.. I don’t know if it’s one for CCD and Non-CCD or what. I have an XLT FX4, and want them on before I pull my boat. Squatting will drive me nuts.


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[Fozzy]

Fozzy, what size Sumo springs did you get? I know there are 2 sizes.. I don’t know if it’s one for CCD and Non-CCD or what. I have an XLT FX4, and want them on before I pull my boat. Squatting will drive me nuts.


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I bought the taller one. If I remember right the smaller one will fit both the front and back. The larger one will only fit the rear. Since my post I have put some miles on them. No boat yet and I hope the CV-19 clears up before the season starts. But I can’t really even tell there on. I actually looked the other day to see if I still had them. Still there so I am happy with that. If they stop the squat by an inch plus I will be happy. I’m not expecting to much from them.


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[TBaganATX]

That helps!

I'm going to order some tomorrow, hope I can get them faster than the rear sway bar I ordered in January.. [emoji36]


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[edizzle]

Put the Sumo coils spacers in tonight. I was worried with the 3/2 lift the springs would not open enough. But no problems. Left the tires on and used a board to push against the tire and pop them in. Super easy. Took me about 1 hour that includes dropping one and putting it in without checking if I put the deep grove in the bottom and had to take it back out and flip it. Took it for a drive and I can’t tell much difference with the CCD’s. Big test will be what my squat is with the boat on this summer.


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hopefully you didnt work on it like that!!

 

[Fozzy]

hopefully you didnt work on it like that!!

Yes, just like that with jack stands of course. People said you need to take the tires off. I did it with them on. Wasn’t bad at all. Just an FYI, there is no place on the Expy that you would have as much surface area contact with the jack pad as I have in this picture.


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[Randy Schmidt]

Yes, just like that with jack stands of course. People said you need to take the tires off. I did it with them on. Wasn’t bad at all. Just an FYI, there is no place on the Expy that you would have as much surface area contact with the jack pad as I have in this picture.


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I've had that same hitch before. It rattled like crazy so I sent it back. Does your rattle?

 

[Fozzy]

I've had that same hitch before. It rattled like crazy so I sent it back. Does your rattle?

It was not loose in my 16’ F-150. It’s real sloppy and rattles in my Expy. I emailed them about it and they immediately responded not to leave it in the receiver for it will wear and suggested shim tape. They even sent me a link to the tape thy recommended. I am going to order a new shank and see if it rattles. With the light duty Expy and F-150 I put up with it to know I am good on the tongue weight.


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[Randy Schmidt]

It was not loose in my 16’ F-150. It’s real sloppy and rattles in my Expy. I emailed them about it and they immediately responded not to leave it in the receiver for it will wear and suggested shim tape. They even sent me a link to the tape thy recommended. I am going to order a new shank and see if it rattles. With the light duty Expy and F-150 I put up with it to know I am good on the tongue weight.


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Thanks... I thought that I was going crazy. Surprised you would need shim tape though...

 

[Randy Schmidt]

Is this the one everyone is purchasing?

https://www.suspensionconnection.com/view-cat/ford/expedition/2018?category=sumosprings

 

[Daniel Gottlieb]

I just installed them. I took the wheels off. It takes longer to take the wheel off than put the sumospring on. Still needs a little lube, but it goes in easy.

I need a set for my rear, but I have a 2wd vs 4wd and the sumosprings website says they are for 4wd only. Can anyone confirm or deny that they will fit on a 2wd model?

 

[Daniel Gottlieb]

Update: I talked with the guys at SumoSprings. They said if I technically I should be able to fit the 4WD version (CSS-1195) if I remove the spring. I didn't want to go thru that trouble, so they suggested a slightly shorter version (CSS-1168). I won't get as much support as the bigger ones, but I also don't have to remove the spring from the strut. Once I get them installed, I'll report back on how they feel.

 

[wakeboarder]

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Update: I talked with the guys at SumoSprings. They said if I technically I should be able to fit the 4WD version (CSS-1195) if I remove the spring. I didn't want to go thru that trouble, so they suggested a slightly shorter version (CSS-1168). I won't get as much support as the bigger ones, but I also don't have to remove the spring from the strut. Once I get them installed, I'll report back on how they feel.

From what I could tell, the 4wd’s use the same rear spring as the 2wd’s. I think the only difference in rear spring is the tow vs non-tow. You may want to quiz them a little more. They could just be guessing.