Towing

[Rebecca Hines]

Thanks in advance.

 

[JasonH]

Too heavy. Try to stay under 7000lbs loaded. Payload is the limit, not trailer weight. At 840lbs, you'll likely exceed the payload limit once you load up. Purely anecdotal, but I suggest staying around 30 ft max. My trailer is 33 ft and I would not want to tow any longer. Also, highly suggest a Max if you're getting a big trailer. Extra wheelbase helps with stability.

 

[Tripinbillie]

What is the Payload on the yellow sticker on your driver side door? That’s what you need to go by. I’d also question the tongue weight estimate. Did you factor in the battery and Propane tanks? That can add upwards of ~100 pounds to the tongue.

 

[Rebecca Hines]

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[JExpedition07]

You’ll be close, what is the payload in the door jamb of your Expedition? That will be what determines what you can tow. Payload is eaten up fast on these half tons and you have to subtract tongue weight, passenger weight, and cargo weight out of that number. It runs out fast and widely varies depending how many passengers you carry. The tow rating isn’t really achievable unless you are towing a boat or the like with low tongue weight on the truck and the truck is empty.

As an example my ‘07 Expedition EL has a tow rating of 9,200 pounds. Sounds good right? But wait, payload says 1,580....if I have 920 pounds on the hitch (it says it’s rated for it!) I have 600ish left for capacity in the truck. 3 adult weight people in the truck? Maxed out! What about cargo? High and dry. Just be sure to account for all weights.

 

[shane_th_ee]

Max tongue weight of trailer at max capacity is 837.

Where did you get that number? (It didn't come come from the salesperson at the dealer, did it?) I've never seen a "maximum loaded tongue weight" given as a spec on any trailer. The only number I've seen for a max tongue weight on a trailer is the number stamped into the coupler itself, but those are almost always much higher than the expected tongue weight.

Traditionally, folks pair travel trailers and tow vehicles by assuming the tongue weight is 15% of the trailer's maximum gross vehicle weight rating. For that trailer, you'd be looking at 7837*.15 or 1275lbs. The receiver rating on the Expedition is only 930lbs, so you'd be about almost 350lbs over. Your only options would be to pack lighter or play with how you load the trailer to move the weight off the tongue. But moving weight off the tongue is going make the trailer want to sway more...

 

[Rebecca Hines]

Here are the 2 stickers and then my WDH says 9300 on bumper.
Thanks for your help.

You’ll be close, what is the payload in the door jamb of your Expedition? That will be what determines what you can tow. Payload is eaten up fast on these half tons and you have to subtract tongue weight, passenger weight, and cargo weight out of that number. It runs out fast and widely varies depending how many passengers you carry. The tow rating isn’t really achievable unless you are towing a boat or the like with low tongue weight on the truck and the truck is empty.

As an example my ‘07 Expedition EL has a tow rating of 9,200 pounds. Sounds good right? But wait, payload says 1,580....if I have 920 pounds on the hitch (it says it’s rated for it!) I have 600ish left for capacity in the truck. 3 adult weight people in the truck? Maxed out! What about cargo? High and dry. Just be sure to account for all weights.

 

[wakeboarder]

Here are the 2 stickers and then my WDH says 9300 on bumper.
Thanks for your help.



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https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten.../guides/19Towing_Ford_Expedition_r1_Dec21.pdf

According to the link above, your max tow rating is 6000lbs since your axle code is “10”. The heavy duty tow package would have an axle code “3L”.

 

[shane_th_ee]

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten.../guides/19Towing_Ford_Expedition_r1_Dec21.pdf

According to the link above, your max tow rating is 6000lbs since your axle code is “10”. The heavy duty tow package would have an axle code “3L”.

You beat me to it.

 

[JasonH]

I decided your VIN. If you have a short wheelbase XLT, make sure you have HD tow package, or else you can't hit the 9300 max tow. It also appears that you have a taller gear ratio, which means more load on the engine. you'll want a shorter trailer, probably under 25 feet. Maybe someone with a short wheelbase Expedition can chime in. I've only towed with my long wheelbase and the wind will move you, even with sway control. You might want to rent a trailer and try towing to see what you'll be comfortable with long term. A 30 ft with your wheelbase will likely be uncomfortable.

 

[JasonH]

You beat me to it.

LOL, me too, apparently.

 

[Calidad]

Another suggestion consider the places you like to go. In my case anything longer than 22ft I wouldn’t be able to go there with the trailer.
The travel trailers get longer and longer every yr but the number of places you can visit get fewer and fewer. If all your doing is parking in a RV resort for the season then long is fine. But most people actually like to travel and see new places. Which case shorten up your trailer get lighter and you’ll be much happier.

If you have more than 2 kids maybe a semi custom dunesport.com with a smarter bunk layout.

 

[Calidad]

If I upgrade our 4x6 900lb trailer the biggest I will go is 20ft. Once I get into the 21-22ft which are 25ft ish hitch to bumper we are getting too big to go to the locations we like to go to. State and National Parks which case might as well just rent an Airbnb.

 

[Rebecca Hines]

Here is what my hitch says. I do have the tow package. Does this make a difference?

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten.../guides/19Towing_Ford_Expedition_r1_Dec21.pdf

According to the link above, your max tow rating is 6000lbs since your axle code is “10”. The heavy duty tow package would have an axle code “3L”.

 

[Rebecca Hines]

Here is what my hitch says. Does that make a difference? I do have the tow package.

You beat me to it.

 

[Rebecca Hines]

here’s what my hitch says. I do have the tow package. Does that make a difference?

I decided your VIN. If you have a short wheelbase XLT, make sure you have HD tow package, or else you can't hit the 9300 max tow. It also appears that you have a taller gear ratio, which means more load on the engine. you'll want a shorter trailer, probably under 25 feet. Maybe someone with a short wheelbase Expedition can chime in. I've only towed with my long wheelbase and the wind will move you, even with sway control. You might want to rent a trailer and try towing to see what you'll be comfortable with long term. A 30 ft with your wheelbase will likely be uncomfortable.

 

[Calidad]

Hitches are always rated higher than the tow vehicle. Only thing that matters is your vehicle rating. Which case it sounds like per your vin you have the standard 6000lb max expedition. The heavy tow pack expeditions have a bunch of extra gear and different rear end for the 9300lb max tow rating.

 

[shane_th_ee]

Here is what my hitch says. I do have the tow package. Does that make a difference?

Unfortunately, it doesn't. That sticker is for the hitch itself and all Expeditions get the same hitch. Also unfortunately, Ford includes something called a "trailer towing package" on all Expeditions, which includes the hitch, associated wiring, etc. To get a towing capacity over 6000lbs, you have to get the "Heavy Duty Trailer Towing" package. That gets a bigger radiator, a stouter rear axle, a trailer brake controller and different gears in the rear axle. Only the trailer brake controller can be added to standard Expedition.

 

[Wayne Decker]

2019 Expedition that can tow 9300 pounds
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Are you saying you have the heavy duty tow package?

 

[Wayne Decker]

Are you saying you have the heavy duty tow package?

Ignore this.