07navi
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He already switched to some other wheels.
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Shantheman73
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It could be possible the tire shops balancing machines aren’t calibrated...and the dealer’s wasn’t either. You’ve eliminated a lot of other issues already...but in my experience...the science of balancing tires has gotten pretty neglected lately. Either poor training or poor maintenance of the machines, or both.
I’ve had so many issues with getting mine balanced, on all my cars. I think most people drive around with the shimmy above 60 like its normal and don’t know any better. But those of us who know, it drives us crazy.
That being said...
I’ve found high degree of success in having tire shops try this method:
1. Balance the wheel.
2. Take it off the machine, spin it half a rotation, put it back on the machine, and see if it zeros out again. Often it doesn’t!
3. Balance it again. Repeat process until it zeros out two times in a row.
When the tire place does this process...I end up vibration free.
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I’ve had so many issues with getting mine balanced, on all my cars. I think most people drive around with the shimmy above 60 like its normal and don’t know any better. But those of us who know, it drives us crazy.
That being said...
I’ve found high degree of success in having tire shops try this method:
1. Balance the wheel.
2. Take it off the machine, spin it half a rotation, put it back on the machine, and see if it zeros out again. Often it doesn’t!
3. Balance it again. Repeat process until it zeros out two times in a row.
When the tire place does this process...I end up vibration free.
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riphip
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Or use tire balancing beads. My Next light project. Have know Truckers that swear by them since wheel weights get thrown off and better than stick-ons. Lot of guys on other truck forums like them also. Inexpensive to use and can be inserted in valve stem after removing core.
Also check that the wheel nuts are torqued correctly & none have been substituted with another type.
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Thank you for the information. I will go tomorrow back to the tire shop ans have the try your method of balancing. I have just out of precaution I ordered new front hub/wheel bearing and if the new tire balancing does not work I will be replacing them.
Conrad Penner
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I had a 2012 expedition, a 2013 F150 and a 2010 F150 that all developed a steering wheel wobble/vibration over time that the dealer couldnt help me with. In all 3 instances i took it upon my self to diagnose and all 3 times it was the brake rotors. Replaced the front rotors, and all 3 vehicles drove like new. The F150's were before 100000km and the expedition at about 180000km
07navi
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He replaced the rotors,
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Conrad Penner
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My bad, missed that
Carl Keef Jr
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I have the exact same problem on my 2010 Ford Expedition Limited. It has the factory 20" rims. I recently replaced the tires thinking that would help but still have the same problem. I've had several tire shops and one mechanic look at it and they haven't been able to figure it out. The last shop that I took it to was Discount Tire. They were able to eliminate most of the shimmy when they did another balance. Their machine showed that the rims were fine and that all the tires were perfectly balanced. It is much better, but still around 60 miles per hour, I have a small shimmy in the steering wheel. If you are ever able to resolve the issue, please post the solution here so that I can fix mine as well. Thanks! Carl
Modelcarguy
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I’d suggest that you might be looking at the wrong end of the truck. Having had a similar problem with my ‘08, we discovered that I had a bad REAR wheel hub. That hub caused the rear end to sway ever so slightly but translated directly to the steering trying to compensate for the tiny movement in the rear end as a shaky and pronounced steering wheel movement.
We, like you, tried everything, wheels balancing, tires, ball joints etc. Nothing seemed to work. But the bad hub At the rear in a large heavy vehicle was enough to set off all sorts of strange behaviors in the front end.
We, like you, tried everything, wheels balancing, tires, ball joints etc. Nothing seemed to work. But the bad hub At the rear in a large heavy vehicle was enough to set off all sorts of strange behaviors in the front end.
Possibly debris squished between back of rotor and hub face ? It would stay there everytime unless wire brushed.
I have same truck with 150K. I don't have that problem but did have one bad upper control arm (you replaced) and one inner tie rod.
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I ordered front and rear hub wheel bearing and will be replacing the front tonight and the rear in the morning. I will update everyone if this has fixed the problem.
I have replaced everything in the front end. So this is the last thing on the list to do and hopefully this will fix the issue.
I have replaced everything in the front end. So this is the last thing on the list to do and hopefully this will fix the issue.
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07navi
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I doubt if that will do anything if you already wiggled the wheels.
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I will also be doing the drive shaft slip yoke and rear differential fluid change all this weekend. So hopefully this will fix the problem and make the wife happy at the same time.
07navi
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Those slip yokes can bind up inside at the spline and the bushing they ride on can wear out and vibrate the whole truck.
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That is why i decided to do a service on the yoke and rear differential fluid along with the front wheel hub bearing
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Hello everyone,
So I replaced the front and rear wheel hub/bearing and the vibration in the steering wheel and shaking has gone away. I also did rear differential fluid change along with the slip yoke and the small bang I would get when taking off and hard stop is gone also. I appreciate a the help from everyone.
So I replaced the front and rear wheel hub/bearing and the vibration in the steering wheel and shaking has gone away. I also did rear differential fluid change along with the slip yoke and the small bang I would get when taking off and hard stop is gone also. I appreciate a the help from everyone.
07navi
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It was all in the slip yoke.
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I also did the front lower control arms as well this weekend. The truck was driving like new before I did the slip yoke, but I did it anyway just as a route maintenance.
Trainmaster
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The slip yokes used to bind and bang in the 1st Gen trucks if not greased with silicone lube.
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