General Grabber tires on brand new 22 Expy

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I got a new 22 model year Expedition a month back. Have put about 1200 miles in the vehicle. I just noticed that the stock tires are from an unreliable brand - General Grabber.

What are my options to get it replaced with a more premium brand like say Michelin?

Is there some shop where I can sell it for a discount ?

Will the ford dealer take it back by any chance ?
 

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I got a new 22 model year Expedition a month back. Have put about 1200 miles in the vehicle. I just noticed that the stock tires are from an unreliable brand - General Grabber.

What are my options to get it replaced with a more premium brand like say Michelin?

Is there some shop where I can sell it for a discount ?

Will the ford dealer take it back by any chance ?

Call around a few local shops. They might bite on buying them. But don’t expect much. I’d also try FB market place or Craigslist. Sometimes people need them for lease turn in.
 

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As has been concluded by many on here including myself, the General Grabbers are total garbage and Ford should be ashamed for taking a flagship vehicle with this price tag and ruining the way it rides by trying to save a few dollars and putting on cheap tires. Next trade I will insist that Michelines be put on at the dealer and worked in to the deal, I will not accept delivery with these tires.
 

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I got a new 22 model year Expedition a month back. Have put about 1200 miles in the vehicle. I just noticed that the stock tires are from an unreliable brand - General Grabber.

What are my options to get it replaced with a more premium brand like say Michelin?

Is there some shop where I can sell it for a discount ?

Will the ford dealer take it back by any chance ?
I don't believe that the dealer will buy them but it's worth a try. Call around tore shops in your area. What trim do you have?
 

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Tire shops may pay you like $200 max for a whole set. No dealers will buy used tire due to liability issue. I used to have Hancook with my 2019 and I ditched them for Michelin LTX.
 

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Factory tires on mass market vehicles are almost always an extremely entry level tire or manufacture specific variant of a tire. Don't dismiss an entire brand just because the factory put on the cheapest variant of a model they could sign a deal with. I run their Grabber ATX (all terrain) and it's quieter on road and better in soft stuff than Michelin all terrains I've had on my Suburban.

Pull them off and list on FB marketplace and Craigslist. I'd think $500 is super reasonable to get assuming they're in great shape.
 
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Ford's tire selection is based on balancing many attributes most of which are conflicting. Cost is only one of those attributes and is very important. In recent years, rolling resistance (fuel economy) has also become very important. Non price purchasing and commercial issues like supplier development, balancing capacity and long term commitments also affect supplier selection.

Actually, the General Grabbers are fairly highly rated in consumers surveys at Tire Rack, Consumers Reports, etc. I have 5000 trouble free miles on 22" Grabbers in my 22 KR. So far they seem better than the 20" Hankooks I had on my 2015 KR.

I would recommend that you put some miles on the OEM tires to see if they are indeed problematic. At least you will get some useage and value out of the tires before you replace them.
 

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Word is that the General Grabbers that we have on our 22 Expeditions are OEM versions, which are supposedly different than the Aftermarket versions that you from Tire Rack, etc. I have a 22 Platinum, which DID NOT sit in Chip Hell. I had it in my driveway 3 weeks after it was built. My tires are impossible to balance. I'm waiting for Pirelli Scorpions AS + 3 to replace the Generals
 

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Just replaced my OEM Bridgestone 20" with Continental Terrain Contact. They were $900 OTD, then got $140 rebate card very quickly.

I've owned a lot of Michelin tires, most recently the LTX 20" on my Yukon. They ride nice, yet don't wear that well. Same with tires for my Avalon. Like the Conti's so much I got a set (different model) for my Lexus RX. Very quiet.
 

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Word is that the General Grabbers that we have on our 22 Expeditions are OEM versions, which are supposedly different than the Aftermarket versions that you from Tire Rack, etc. I have a 22 Platinum, which DID NOT sit in Chip Hell. I had it in my driveway 3 weeks after it was built. My tires are impossible to balance. I'm waiting for Pirelli Scorpions AS + 3 to replace the Generals
Yeah these tires are absolute garbage. All four of mine won’t balance.
 
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I spoke with the dealer who sold it to me. They will not take it back. They said they don't have the license to sell used tires.
I have to try calling a few tire shops
 

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I swapped the 22” Generals on mine to Michelin LTX Defenders before I brought it home. I think they charged me around $1,200 to swap them.
 

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My 22 limited came with 22 inch Grappers and sat for 3 months waiting for chips in the winter. Flat spots. Ford replaced them with General Grappers ATX, since the Grapper OEM was discontinued. After their road force, I didnt like the ride at 60 and above. Had them road forced balance by an out side big truck tire shop as I don't trust the dealer. The dealer tech never took off the old wts and just added more. Thus my distrust for dealers. One failed marginally so we put in on the rear. Grapper Atx is a much more aggressive tread that is very noisy particularly on cement vs asphalt and just sings. Tires not happy until they warm up. Most likely will wear quickly too. Won't go back to General. I want a road truck tire, not a off road tire that is quiet. The ride is so much better now that the truck shop did the RFB, past 85 mph. 5k and no other issues with the Expy.
 

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I also had the general grabber 22's. My truck sat for five months waiting on chips. After driving over 60 mph thr whole truck shook. Took back to dealer. It took two weeks to get approval from ford to replace tires. What a joke. I had more miles on the loaner after two weeks than my own car. Ford approved to replace. My dealer replaced them with perilli at3's. Very nice ride now.
 

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Mine sat for a couple months awaiting parts, but fortunately no flat spots on the Grabbers. Unfortunately the traction on these absolutely suck. If it wasn’t going to be crazy expensive for new tires I would be putting something else on immediately.
 

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Not sure about selling your current tires, but I found a place in Oceanside that gets new take-offs and resells them. I bought 4 new Michelins for $400 installed from them for our 2017. I was able to inspect the tires inside and out before the purchase—not even a scuff let alone a patch. Look on FB Market or Craigslist—that is where I found this place.

LOL–after reading more of the responses, we replaced the tires we had on the Expy for 2 reasons. 1) they got flat spots after sitting for as little as a week. 2) they were weather checked/dry rotted at 3 years old. I don’t remember what brand they were, but they were likely OEM as the truck only had 24K on the odometer.
 

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I have a 22 Limited Max 302A, HD Tow, eLSD. General Grabbers on the car. I have 6200 miles on them so far, the vast majority on long road trips. No complaints so far. Haven't encountered snow or ice yet, so that is TBD. And I'm sure there are better tires that can be had; I figure I'll just stick with these as long as I can stand them and then upgrade to something better.
 
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