Expy Crash Test Question

[powerboatr]

the energy management in these tests are pretty dam amazing.
thanks

 

[HarryBo]

New tests show Expy doing very poorly on marginal offset front collision tests. Definitely need wheel well frame extensions like in F150s.

Anyone find solution? Thinking of buying F150 extensions and welding onto frame if can work.

 

[HILLY]

Right or wrong, I'm seriously considering the Ironman full steel bumper for the F-150 that Lumberjack and another member have put on their trucks. The beam behind the Expy bumper cover does not extend much past the frame rails. The F-150 has bumper "horns" that are fitted behind the steel bumper that definitely helps deflect energy in the offset crash.

 

[rd618]

2025 Ford Expedition 4-door SUV

2025 Ford Expedition 4-door SUV - large SUV

www.iihs.org

 

[aksarben]

Wow - not cool. You would think a big vehicle like this would offer better driver protection. Kinda sickening actually. So, if I see someone drifting over I should steer into them to keep the impact more "head on"? That's bad....

 

[bb37]

Look more closely. All those test results are for 2023 or 2024 models. I don't see any tests for 2025 models.

 

[DieselMonk]

Wow - not cool. You would think a big vehicle like this would offer better driver protection. Kinda sickening actually. So, if I see someone drifting over I should steer into them to keep the impact more "head on"? That's bad....

You got to use this crash test data a little bit like a grain of salt. First they are always changing the way to test things and add that to the list. Specifically the overlap test. I never would drive little small cars. Maybe in the city only but other than that, nope. Plus you always got the option to install a heavy duty push bar on front on the Expy.

 

[rd618]

Look more closely. All those test results are for 2023 or 2024 models. I don't see any tests for 2025 models.

Yes. Applicable for everyone posting in the Gen 4 side, post 2022 refresh.

 

[rd618]

You got to use this crash test data a little bit like a grain of salt. First they are always changing the way to test things and add that to the list. Specifically the overlap test. I never would drive little small cars. Maybe in the city only but other than that, nope. Plus you always got the option to install a heavy duty push bar on front on the Expy.

The part almost everyone forgets is physics. Bigger vehicles have more mass. More mass at the same speed has more force. The force has to still be absorbed in a small space and time.
you can mitigate this with more robust cages but that adds weight, which reduces fuel efficiency, which consumers shop around for.
Smaller vehicles have more flexibility in cage construction and they “bounce” more in these tests.

 

[DieselMonk]

The part almost everyone forgets is physics. Bigger vehicles have more mass. More mass at the same speed has more force. The force has to still be absorbed in a small space and time.
you can mitigate this with more robust cages but that adds weight, which reduces fuel efficiency, which consumers shop around for.
Smaller vehicles have more flexibility in cage construction and they “bounce” more in these tests.

Just happens to be that the 4th gen Expy limited is one of the lightest full size SUV compared to the other brands.