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  1. shinysideup2

    Wheeling around Sedona (videos)

    Went to Sedona, AZ for the first time with my family of four and a family friend in their custom extended Jeep JKU. We got to hit up Broken Arrow, Soldier Pass to Devil's Kitchen Sinkhole, and Dry Creek Trail to Devil's Bridge. I was able to capture some video... - Soldier Pass to Devil's...
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    2015 Expy Final Gear Ratio upgrade - advise required

    You do have to have front and rear matching. What's your current ratio? What do you not like about it? What's your goal and intended future use of the Expedition? I have the 3.73 (3L73 Limited Slip) which is very good for towing, acceleration, and over-sized tires (34").
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    Aftermarket? What aftermarket.

    https://iconvehicledynamics.com/accessory/15692/icon-accessories-2014-up-ford-expedition-4wd-75-225-stage-1-suspension-system/
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    Should I be able to tow this trailer safely?

    The tongue weight will send you over your rated payload. At 936 (Dry, factory hitch weight), add 40 lb propane + 50 lb battery + cargo + 200+ lb water if the fresh tank is at the front of the trailer, and you will easily exceed the 1400-ish lb of payload of the expedition. We tow our 2018...
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    Aftermarket? What aftermarket.

    A bit pricey at $2k+ per axle, but these are very nice. https://iconvehicledynamics.com/news-blog/4770/new-product--2014-up-ford-expedition-suspension-systems/ I've tried Bilstein 6112 and Rancho adjustables. Ranchos surprisingly worked better, but didn't last more than 1.5-2 years after some...
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    ICONs on any 3rd gen?

    Front feels great! On the street @ full stiff, handles much better, but had to lower tire pressures. Towing felt great too. Haven't had a chance to off-road too hard with it. Just ordered the rears, but there's an 18 week turnaround time on those.
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    2015 Limited Seat cracking

    @Joe S - We'd love to see photos of your seats if you have any to share!
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    Do 22's suck?

    You can get a set of Ford Raptor wheels for about $400 (+/-) to use as your off-road wheels. Many of them look pretty good too. I have stock 20's and Raptor 17's for off-roading after I cracked a set of aftermarket 20's while stupidly off-roading with them. :(
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    Shocks and struts

    Parts catalogs don't appear to differentiate between EL and standard length. I would think the GAWR would be the same, but you may have more payload capacity on the non-EL due to the lower relative weight vs. the EL...
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    "Screech fart" noise on boost (medium to high)

    WEB DIAGNOSIS REQUESTED: My 2017, is making a high-pitched noise under boost that's difficult to describe in words... sort of a screeching / squealing / high-pitched farting sound. This happens only under medium- to high- boost / throttle application and gets better when the engine is warm. The...
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    ICONs on any 3rd gen?

    Just in... Woo hoo!
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    ICONs on any 3rd gen?

    Has anybody tried ICON's on their 3rd gen? I was pleased to learn that they offer units for 2014+ Expeditions. I searched this forum but I see mostly 4th gens using them. I'm getting tired of the bounce from the undersprung / underdamped Bilstein 6112's that I have, so i'm stepping up to the...
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    Stock Spring rates 2017 EL (Bilstein 6112 are too soft)

    Thanks J. Wow. That would mean that the Bilstein 6112 springs (500 lb/in) are actually softer than stock.
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    Stock Spring rates 2017 EL (Bilstein 6112 are too soft)

    Would anybody happen to know the stock spring rates on the 2017 EL (or any 3rd gen, for that matter)? I've got the Bilstein 6112's up front and find it to be too soft with 500 lb/in springs. Nice for off-roading and highway. Not great for towing. I'm thinking about either 1) upgrading to...
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    Time for tires, Michelin Defender LTX vs Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT

    https://recallinfo.ustires.org/TireRecallSearch/ListRecalls/60 Sent from my Pixel 4a (5G) using Tapatalk
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    Tire shopping!

    Probably not a big deal if your main priority is to save money. But H-rated tires will generally be better constructed (more durable, better handling) than T-rated tires. Personally, I wouldn't put T-rated tires on a 6000 lb SUV. But cost isn't necessarily my first priority.
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    Time for tires, Michelin Defender LTX vs Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT

    LT tires will generally be more durable, but much heavier than their P-metric equivalents. Your fuel mileage may suffer. For some reason, I thought the Michelin Defender LTX in our stock 20" wheel size was an LT tire, but I see now that it's a P tire. They do make LT variants, but not in our...
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    Am I overloaded? 28' Bunkhouse...

    You may find the heavy tongue weight with family in the car will make the rear end pretty bouncy. You'll likely end up with about 900-1000lb on the tongue/hitch, leaving you only about 400-450 lb for cargo in the Expedition. I would recommend upgrading the rear suspension. Some options: -...
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    Time for tires, Michelin Defender LTX vs Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT

    Bilstein 6112 in front (adjustable height). Rancho in back (adjustable damping, good for towing, but fixed height@about 3/4" to 1" over stock. The Bilsteins aren't great. Under sprung and under damped... Likely because they're tuned for the f150 which is a few hundred pounds lighter. Sent...
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    Time for tires, Michelin Defender LTX vs Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT

    < $200 per michelin tire in that size is a killer deal! Sent from my Pixel 4a (5G) using Tapatalk
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    Time for tires, Michelin Defender LTX vs Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT

    Those are different tires. The Michelin Defender LTX is an all-season. I wouldn't use these for off-roading. I have the Cooper Discoverer AT3-XLT in 305/70-17 (34") on 17" Raptor wheels. I do have a very mild lift (about 1" all around) and have had to trim the inside of the fenders (plastic only...
  22. shinysideup2

    Brake pad and rotor replacement

    I would still replace the pads. The pads that usually come with these kits are crap.
  23. shinysideup2

    Anyone try these on their Expy?

    Hellwig 7688. The unit I got was not a perfect fit. If you get the same, you may need to wrangle the frame mounts on there a bit and the bushings will be squeezed, but it will go in. I haven't had a problem in the 15k miles / 2 years I've had it.
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    Brake pad and rotor replacement

    Yep. Rotors are relatively cheap and very easy to swap if you know how to pull them off. Unfortunately, it took me 3 hours and lots of unnecessary hammering and cursing to realize it's easy to pry off with a pry bar or breaker bar using the caliper bracket mount (bolt hole) on the spindle as a...
  25. shinysideup2

    Anyone try these on their Expy?

    They do fit. I have them installed on my 2017 EL Limited. Rancho just never updated their support documentation. 3rd gen's pretty much all have the same suspension. Sent from my Pixel 4a (5G) using Tapatalk

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