Went to Sedona, AZ for the first time with my family of four and a family friend in their custom extended Jeep JKU. We got to hit up Broken Arrow, Soldier Pass to Devil's Kitchen Sinkhole, and Dry Creek Trail to Devil's Bridge. I was able to capture some video...
- Soldier Pass to Devil's...
You do have to have front and rear matching. What's your current ratio? What do you not like about it? What's your goal and intended future use of the Expedition?
I have the 3.73 (3L73 Limited Slip) which is very good for towing, acceleration, and over-sized tires (34").
The tongue weight will send you over your rated payload. At 936 (Dry, factory hitch weight), add 40 lb propane + 50 lb battery + cargo + 200+ lb water if the fresh tank is at the front of the trailer, and you will easily exceed the 1400-ish lb of payload of the expedition.
We tow our 2018...
A bit pricey at $2k+ per axle, but these are very nice.
https://iconvehicledynamics.com/news-blog/4770/new-product--2014-up-ford-expedition-suspension-systems/
I've tried Bilstein 6112 and Rancho adjustables. Ranchos surprisingly worked better, but didn't last more than 1.5-2 years after some...
Front feels great! On the street @ full stiff, handles much better, but had to lower tire pressures.
Towing felt great too.
Haven't had a chance to off-road too hard with it. Just ordered the rears, but there's an 18 week turnaround time on those.
You can get a set of Ford Raptor wheels for about $400 (+/-) to use as your off-road wheels. Many of them look pretty good too.
I have stock 20's and Raptor 17's for off-roading after I cracked a set of aftermarket 20's while stupidly off-roading with them. :(
Parts catalogs don't appear to differentiate between EL and standard length. I would think the GAWR would be the same, but you may have more payload capacity on the non-EL due to the lower relative weight vs. the EL...
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My 2017, is making a high-pitched noise under boost that's difficult to describe in words... sort of a screeching / squealing / high-pitched farting sound. This happens only under medium- to high- boost / throttle application and gets better when the engine is warm. The...
Has anybody tried ICON's on their 3rd gen? I was pleased to learn that they offer units for 2014+ Expeditions. I searched this forum but I see mostly 4th gens using them.
I'm getting tired of the bounce from the undersprung / underdamped Bilstein 6112's that I have, so i'm stepping up to the...
Would anybody happen to know the stock spring rates on the 2017 EL (or any 3rd gen, for that matter)?
I've got the Bilstein 6112's up front and find it to be too soft with 500 lb/in springs. Nice for off-roading and highway. Not great for towing. I'm thinking about either
1) upgrading to...
Probably not a big deal if your main priority is to save money. But H-rated tires will generally be better constructed (more durable, better handling) than T-rated tires. Personally, I wouldn't put T-rated tires on a 6000 lb SUV. But cost isn't necessarily my first priority.
LT tires will generally be more durable, but much heavier than their P-metric equivalents. Your fuel mileage may suffer.
For some reason, I thought the Michelin Defender LTX in our stock 20" wheel size was an LT tire, but I see now that it's a P tire. They do make LT variants, but not in our...
You may find the heavy tongue weight with family in the car will make the rear end pretty bouncy. You'll likely end up with about 900-1000lb on the tongue/hitch, leaving you only about 400-450 lb for cargo in the Expedition.
I would recommend upgrading the rear suspension. Some options:
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Bilstein 6112 in front (adjustable height).
Rancho in back (adjustable damping, good for towing, but fixed height@about 3/4" to 1" over stock.
The Bilsteins aren't great. Under sprung and under damped... Likely because they're tuned for the f150 which is a few hundred pounds lighter.
Sent...
Those are different tires. The Michelin Defender LTX is an all-season. I wouldn't use these for off-roading.
I have the Cooper Discoverer AT3-XLT in 305/70-17 (34") on 17" Raptor wheels. I do have a very mild lift (about 1" all around) and have had to trim the inside of the fenders (plastic only...
Hellwig 7688. The unit I got was not a perfect fit. If you get the same, you may need to wrangle the frame mounts on there a bit and the bushings will be squeezed, but it will go in. I haven't had a problem in the 15k miles / 2 years I've had it.
Yep. Rotors are relatively cheap and very easy to swap if you know how to pull them off. Unfortunately, it took me 3 hours and lots of unnecessary hammering and cursing to realize it's easy to pry off with a pry bar or breaker bar using the caliper bracket mount (bolt hole) on the spindle as a...
They do fit. I have them installed on my 2017 EL Limited. Rancho just never updated their support documentation. 3rd gen's pretty much all have the same suspension.
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