16inch ION WHEELS on expedition
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Mikes05expy
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Not a great pic but this is all I could find on the forum. It's another members ride not mine btw.
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Pedition2000
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The 16" will fit our trucks? I have 17" but have a big choice around here of 16" or 16.5". Thanks.
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Lightnig
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absolutely 16's will fit. Can't speak to aftermarket 16" though, you would have to check for brake caliper clearance.
I know for fact 16" Ford wheels will fit, because that's what mine came with from the factory. Searching around for a local set of 17"'s though, just not feeling the love with 16's...
I know for fact 16" Ford wheels will fit, because that's what mine came with from the factory. Searching around for a local set of 17"'s though, just not feeling the love with 16's...
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Pedition2000
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Thanks.
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oregonn8v
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It may not be an issue for anyone here considering the change but do be aware that changing from 16" to 17" will reduce towing capacity by around 500# and vice-versa.
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Yudaman
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Yes, why would going to a smaller wheel change your towing capacity?
If anything, the smaller radius if the wheel should INCREASE the capacity of the wheel (due to leverage on the shorter radius).
For years upon years the most widely used wheel size on work trucks was 16". Look back to any 3/4 or 1 ton truck before the year 2000. Everything had 16" wheels with an 8 lug bolt pattern. Therefore, it is still incredibly easy to find 10ply tires for use on a 16" wheel.
Hate to tell you, but your information source is incorrect. 16" wheels will not give you any less towing/hauling capacity over a 17".
If anything, the smaller radius if the wheel should INCREASE the capacity of the wheel (due to leverage on the shorter radius).
For years upon years the most widely used wheel size on work trucks was 16". Look back to any 3/4 or 1 ton truck before the year 2000. Everything had 16" wheels with an 8 lug bolt pattern. Therefore, it is still incredibly easy to find 10ply tires for use on a 16" wheel.
Hate to tell you, but your information source is incorrect. 16" wheels will not give you any less towing/hauling capacity over a 17".
Mediamonkey11
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He's saying going up in size will decrease it, I bet that's based on a larger total diameter tire being installed which would make sense... But who pays attention to those numbers anyway ;-P
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I don't know about what you guys want to tow behind your truck but I pull my 42 foot boat around 8000 pounds and my buggy around 7000 and bobcats. With no proploms and I have 315/70/R17
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BIG GREEN FORD
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I'll post the pics on this forum when I get out of work
oregonn8v
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Sorry if my post was not clear. I was stating that the 16" wheels will give you about 500# more towing capacity than the 17" wheels. You are right that the typical size for wheels was 16" for that reason. While no source is perfect, I tend to use Trailer Life Magazine's Trailer Towing Guide as a point of reference. This link will show Trailer Life's Towing Guides from model year 1999 - 2014.
For the 2000 Expedition 5.4L 4X4 Trailer Life gives three different tow ratings
6,400# with a 3.31:1 axle ratio
6,900# with a 3.55:1 axle ratio and 17" wheels
7,400# with a 3.55:1 axle ratio and 16" wheels
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Mediamonkey11
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Aah makes more sense, I thought you may have been referring to ratings based on wheel size, I'm wondering if those ratings are affected more due to the overall circumference of the wheel/tire setup rather than the rim size?? Hmmmm lol
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oregonn8v
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If most of your towing is in Florida then you have fairly flat ground and I have no doubt you can tow that capacity. I would be hard pressed to pull 8000# with my Expy over Mt. Hood with a 6%+ grade and elevation of over 4000 feet. At least not at any reasonable speed.
Lightnig
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Absolutely
Wheel size does not make a lick of difference in that regard, it has everything to do with overall diametre.
It's all about ratios, think of it in terms of rear end gearing: A smaller overall tire will have the effect of numerically raising the gear ratio, as opposed to a larger will numerically reduce gear ratio - which is exactly why the guys with very large off road tires have to change their rear gears to something steeper (Numerically higher) to make up for the loss of torque due to the larger tire size (a bit of an over-simplification, but you get the idea).
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BIG GREEN FORD
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If most of your towing is in Florida then you have fairly flat ground and I have no doubt you can tow that capacity. I would be hard pressed to pull 8000# with my Expy over Mt. Hood with a 6%+ grade and elevation of over 4000 feet. At least not at any reasonable speed.
Yea that is also a big difference. The only thing I do is go through mud and dead sand and for short distance with the buggy on my trailer. Or the wet pavement pulling my boat out at the boat ramp but if I put it in 4low I don't even step on the gas
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BIG GREEN FORD
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And 3.73 gears? With 17in tires
oregonn8v
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IIRC the 3.73 adds about 500# towing capacity over the 3.31.
BIG GREEN FORD
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So I should be okay with my 315/70/r17 And 3.73 limited slip to keep pulling my heavy old boat outoff the boat ramp
