2000 4.6L ac hoses and condenser replacement - what a PITA!

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First, both condenser bolts broke off. fixed it by screwing condenser holders into the radiator support (on top). Now, I found out that to remove the manifold, the whole compressor needs to be unbolted. Not a problem, except I cannot get to the upper bolt. Simply not enough space for a ratchet, and not enough torque for a small (10 mm) wrench, which keeps sliding off. This is the third day of work on this "1.5 hr" job...

UPDATE - Finished! flat 10 mm wrench loosened the upper compressor bolts. The compressor moved forward just enough to allow me to put a small ratchet wrench on the manifold bolt. Once that was done, I had to cut up the old hose, because someone routed rubber snorkel hose between two AC hoses, so that manifold could not be removed. Still, cannot attach the aluminum cylinder on the high pressure hose located directly above the AC compressor. It has an "L" shaped tab that supposed to somehow slide in (pointing toward the rear of the engine), but the tab prevents the whole cylinder from being securely bolted on to the engine (just below the valve cover). What am I missing?

UPDATE 2 - brought the car back to get it recharged. 4 ring gaskets failed. Apparently, SANTECH INDUSTRIES Santech MT2529 A/C System O-Ring and Gasket Kit is NOT appropriate for 2000 Ford Expedition. Unfortunately, these failed one by one, not at once, so they had to recharge/evacuate twice and replace 4 gaskets. Total bill - $989. That's after 3 afternoons spent replacing the hoses. I give up.
 
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You can't get to it with the tire removed and the wheel turned all the way to the right ? Do you have the ratchet extensions ?
 
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You can't get to it with the tire removed and the wheel turned all the way to the right ? Do you have the ratchet extensions ?
There is not enough space between the bolt and the frame to fit ratchet. Had to use a small flat 10 mm wrench. It took 20 minutes to get that bolt.
 

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I have same vehicle but with the larger motor. Luckily I haven't done this job. The few things I have done are a P.I.T.A.Biggest problem is they built a motor that's too long for the body it's going under. If they would have made a flip up cab , like large trucks have, or just made a small bit more room, it wouldn't be a knuckle buster every time. When people say to you, it's not that hard to work on, are lying their ass off. Like here in the South when natives say you get used to the heat. I've been here going on 2 years, and I sweat more than the day I got here. Engineer's never work on the vehicles they've designed. If they did, they'd redesign those parts to be more easily removable. Just saying.
 
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I have same vehicle but with the larger motor. Luckily I haven't done this job. The few things I have done are a P.I.T.A.Biggest problem is they built a motor that's too long for the body it's going under. If they would have made a flip up cab , like large trucks have, or just made a small bit more room, it wouldn't be a knuckle buster every time. When people say to you, it's not that hard to work on, are lying their ass off. Like here in the South when natives say you get used to the heat. I've been here going on 2 years, and I sweat more than the day I got here. Engineer's never work on the vehicles they've designed. If they did, they'd redesign those parts to be more easily removable. Just saying.
Amen!!!
 
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I have same vehicle but with the larger motor. Luckily I haven't done this job. The few things I have done are a P.I.T.A.Biggest problem is they built a motor that's too long for the body it's going under. If they would have made a flip up cab , like large trucks have, or just made a small bit more room, it wouldn't be a knuckle buster every time. When people say to you, it's not that hard to work on, are lying their ass off. Like here in the South when natives say you get used to the heat. I've been here going on 2 years, and I sweat more than the day I got here. Engineer's never work on the vehicles they've designed. If they did, they'd redesign those parts to be more easily removable. Just saying.
Try replacing the COP from # 4 or #8 cylinders....
 

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I was reading your earlier post from August. First off, always, always compare old o rings to new, second, whenever you can, get a kit from AC specialist, not some company selling cheap, and third, your recharge shop should have drawn vacuum to be sure all is sealed up. You never just throw in 3 pounds of freon, if theirs a leak. Shame on them.
 
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