2018 Engine Replaced

[joethefordguy]

yes, all vehicles have problems. the question is: how do maintenance and repair costs compare? I don't believe a bar chart that shows historically POS brands doing better than historically high quality brands. I'd have to see more about how jeep, et al, turned their historically bad quality around in a couple of years before I believe it.

 

[AKentPhoto]

I'd have to see more about how jeep, et al, turned their historically bad quality around in a couple of years before I believe it.

This is an easy one. They stopped making their own vehicles... We can thank Mercedes for the uptick in quality. It's also why they are getting long in the tooth. They are too afraid to change them! Ha...

 

[Artie]

yes, all vehicles have problems. the question is: how do maintenance and repair costs compare? I don't believe a bar chart that shows historically POS brands doing better than historically high quality brands. I'd have to see more about how jeep, et al, turned their historically bad quality around in a couple of years before I believe it.

I wouldn’t touch a Dodge, or Heep... I mean Jeep. Nope, nope nope.

 

[Diverdown]

I think it's quality control and inconsistent parts/assembly. Ford has a ton of these vehicles on the road, and they seem to be hit or miss in reliability. My blower motor is burning up its connector and my driver side seat control housing has seperated from the seat. None of my Hondas had these types of issues, just routine maintenance till 150k and no issues with interior trim. I wouldn't want to own one of these vehicles without an extended warranty. If Toyota ever released an extended wheelbase Sequoia with a modern power train, I would jump ship.

I can’t believe some of these engines crap out so soon. Wonder if it’s cause of the turbos.


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[JasonH]

I can’t believe some of these engines crap out so soon. Wonder if it’s cause of the turbos.


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I don't think so. There are many examples of Ecoboost engines with well over 150k. Now people are complaining that the Coyote 5.0 is burning oil because of the cylinder lining. I think it's something about Ford's design philosophy... perhaps too much penny pinching in certain areas. Given the volume of vehicles, small savings add up. But some of the savings are likely at the cost of durability.

 

[joethefordguy]

This is an easy one. They stopped making their own vehicles... We can thank Mercedes for the uptick in quality. It's also why they are getting long in the tooth. They are too afraid to change them! Ha...

mercedes is a brand with historically high quality that has gone into the crapper in the last few years. they might be doing better, but not consistently.

 

[joethefordguy]

I can’t believe some of these engines crap out so soon. Wonder if it’s cause of the turbos.


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add on turbos, even OEM turbos that are added to engines that were not originally designed with turbos, can quickly wear out an engine. there's a reason diesel engines seem to be relatively unaffected by turbos.

 

[sjwelds]

add on turbos, even OEM turbos that are added to engines that were not originally designed with turbos, can quickly wear out an engine. there's a reason diesel engines seem to be relatively unaffected by turbos.

The Ecoboost was designed for turbos.

 

[Barry Smith]

Problems reported by owners in the first 90 days, yes.

I have read some speculation that it skews the data because someone laying money out for a Tesla or a Rover (for instance) are going to be much more likely to go over the vehicle checking for defects and problems whereas a Dodge buyer is less likely to do so. (The Dodge buyer is still just excited he got approved for financing. BOOM, got you good Dodge drivers. I’m kidding, it’s a joke.)

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Kia owners would be more impressed with a new vehicle than say a Mercedes owner.

 

[aggiegrad05]

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Kia owners would be more impressed with a new vehicle than say a Mercedes owner.

And more likely to let things slide. To be perfectly honest, I have come across several things in my Expi that are not as they should be, certainly not at the Platinum price point. But I usually just shrug my shoulders and say "eh, it's a Ford." I would not do the same if it were from a manufacturer that you're supposedly paying up for quality, i.e. the Germans.

(I acknowledge many might not share my laissez-faire attitude about an $80k vehicle, but I guess I care more about my blood pressure than a stitch or a panel gap, haha.)

 

[5280tunage]

This is an easy one. They stopped making their own vehicles... We can thank Mercedes for the uptick in quality. It's also why they are getting long in the tooth. They are too afraid to change them! Ha...

While I get what your saying, I traded in a 2011 WK2 with 140K miles on it (still running perfectly) and from a retaining value perspective, it's quite nice when the vehicle your trading in is still in production. Jeep has almost always maintained 3-5 yrs between vehicle refreshes, especially in the grand lines. It's way better than some of these manufacturers these days that survive off of the iPhone-syndrome (and it's no longer just iPhones, got it) where you must have a new model every 1-2 yrs to maintain a stock price. I welcomed the influence from DaimlerBenz on the WK2, was a great vehicle, just too small for my needs now. And I personally loved the hemi, had 3 vehicles with the 5.7. And yes, I had my fair share of issues over time, thank god for warranties.

 

[3rd Expyowner123]

I own a 2018, now with 32,000 miles, with no failures of any kind. Sorry for your experience.

 

[rjdelp7]

What did the original OP mean by 'holding gears'? Is that like dropping into a lower transmission range and driving. I call that abuse.

 

[Bill Schell]

I got the call from the dealer. They are replacing my engine (on backorder currently). 2018 with 44K miles on it. I took it in three times for an engine ticking/rattle when holding gears in sport or tow mode. Last year they replaced the cam tensioners and some other stuff for rattle on start up. That didn't solve the rattle when holding gears. I finally drove around with a tech who thought it was the "IWE". It was not. Now they are replacing the engine. This is on top of having the power mirror replaced, the drivers power running board replaced, the rear tailgate button &motors replaced, and the drivers side door lock replaced as it fell off inside the door. Did I get a lemon or what? I really love this truck when its working, but yeesh, i spend allot of time at the dealer for a 2yo vehicle.

Not good and a poor reflection on Ford. On my 2018, I've had to have the passenger side power step repaired and now scheduled to have the can phasers and timing chain replaced next week when parts are in. Only 48k miles... ridiculous. Thank goodness I have the Premium extended warranty. Only cost me $100/incident, but still hate having this level of work done on a brand new rig.

 

[wasatchrunner]

Is there an extended car warranty company that people have used that they would recommend?

 

[Craigga542]

Is there an extended car warranty company that people have used that they would recommend?

I think most recommend Ford ESP, through Flood online. That’s what I’ll be purchasing in the next year before my factory warranty runs out.

 

[rjdelp7]

Long oil change intervals I suspect is causing this. A combination of non OEM drain back(cheap) filters and low oil level also. I suspect the EB has high fuel dilution. High heat produced from turbocharging is breaking the oil down faster. Ford makes a non-turbo F-150 3.5l. They are a not failing on the same level. My advice would be use full synthetic ALL THE TIME. and change it at 3,500mi. Make sure you know what filter is being used by shops. Last, check the oil. Running around, a quart low with VVT is really bad.

 

[wasatchrunner]

I think most recommend Ford ESP, through Flood online. That’s what I’ll be purchasing in the next year before my factory warranty runs out.

I checked on their website and they only cover cars under 41,000 miles which I am over by 5,000.

 

[Craigga542]

I checked on their website and they only cover cars under 41,000 miles which I am over by 5,000.

You can also try Lombard or Zeigler

 

[MilanB]

I am purchasing a 2018 Ford Expedition Max Platinum. On the original sticker it does not list specifically it has the CoPilot 360 but many of the features of the CoPilot 360 are present on the original sticker. Question: Does that Platinum version for 2018 contain the CoPilot 360 and all its features and items as standard? I am mainly wondering if the pre-collision assist with the automatic braking feature is included on my 2018 Platinum especially since the original sticker does not explicitly designate the CoPilot 360 on the said sticker. Thx and standing by.