2021 question

[TheAngryOgre]

Pic attached...looks terrible

 

[5280tunage]

yeah, and there are a bazillion crevices and spots for water and dirt to build up, at least the cover protects some of that. This makes no sense to me, cost cutting maybe, but a molded foam part doesn't seem to me to be the best bang for the buck if you're cutting out parts. The standard carpeted floor mats probably cost more to manufacture. Maybe its due to all of the new pressure on petroleum, the car is more "Green" by not using petroleum to manufacture the foam cover. J/K.

Also, on the 2021's, pay very close attention to your under carriage. Not sure if you saw the recent F150 issues, but people taking delivery of brand new F150's with large amounts of rust everywhere. I get it, some rust is normal (I don't yet have any visible on a 2019) but some of those pictures of F150's with bolts that look so rusted you probably can't break the nuts off easily, is crazy. I'm wondering if they stopped treating materials in an effort to save build costs (but still sell them for the same price).

 

[mwl001]

These days it could simply be a matter of "we can't get these from the supplier". So, hold it on a lot somewhere until we get more, or ship it to a dealer and get it sold. This is a different situation than if say, water pumps or alternators aren't available.

 

[5280tunage]

Maybe, but a decent company would at least tell their customers and dealers that hey, this part is not available, please have your customer fill out this form, or web survey, and we'll contact them and ship one out once they are available. Just so far seems like no one knows what's going on. Maybe by design I guess, we all know that would instantly end up on the interwebs and get used against Ford. But I error on the side of educate people for customer service reasons.

 

[TheAngryOgre]

Had the dealer check the rest of his Expeditions...none of them have engine covers.

 

[5280tunage]

maybe they quietly discovered that's why we've seen a few F150's and Expy's catch on fire in the past few months.

I have my old one if anyone wants one, you'll just need to buy a couple nylon insert nuts if you studs don't have the nuts on them. Just cover reasonable shipping (let me know if interested and I'll try to find a box and see what shipping would cost).

Also, if you're interested, I replaced my original one with the ford performance cover, part number KR7Z6A949A. When I ordered mine, it was around $110 plus shipping, but that could have changed.

 

[carymccarr]

maybe they quietly discovered that's why we've seen a few F150's and Expy's catch on fire in the past few months.

I have my old one if anyone wants one, you'll just need to buy a couple nylon insert nuts if you studs don't have the nuts on them. Just cover reasonable shipping (let me know if interested and I'll try to find a box and see what shipping would cost).

Also, if you're interested, I replaced my original one with the ford performance cover, part number KR7Z6A949A. When I ordered mine, it was around $110 plus shipping, but that could have changed.

If Ford found out the engine covers were causing fires and didn’t immediately issue a recall they’d be effed.

Curious what a “performance” engine cover does?

 

[JExpedition07]

As I said the 2.7, 5.0, and 3.5 are all no longer supplied with an engine cover in the F-150 from what I’ve seen online. It’s not really an essential part...the 6.7 Diesel, 2.7 EcoBoost haven’t had one in a few years now.

 

[LokiWolf]

If Ford found out the engine covers were causing fires and didn’t immediately issue a recall they’d be effed.

Curious what a “performance” engine cover does?

It is the slightly different looking one from the Raptor HO 3.5. Just looks different.


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[carymccarr]

It is the slightly different looking one from the Raptor HO 3.5. Just looks different.


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I checked my navigators engine today and it has one. I’ve actually never paid attention to it before other than when I clean the engine bay but that’s just a quick wipe down. It’s actually a pretty substantial piece. Very very thick in certain areas and made out of a dense foam like material. Must be for sound deadening


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[LyoddChrissmiss]

Yeah looks like it’s definitely missing something. Very odd
Even my 97 F150 has one..

 

[Zig10]

I must be the only one here that hates the plastic covers they have added to engines. Couldn't stand it when they started back in the late '80s, still don't like it. The one on my 2020 Ram is ridiculous...it only covers around 1/3 of the engine, so it's not doing much for noise or heat insulation. It's like they just needed enough room to write 5.7 Hemi on it and stuck it on the back.

 

[LokiWolf]

I must be the only one here that hates the plastic covers they have added to engines. Couldn't stand it when they started back in the late '80s, still don't like it. The one on my 2020 Ram is ridiculous...it only covers around 1/3 of the engine, so it's not doing much for noise or heat insulation. It's like they just needed enough room to write 5.7 Hemi on it and stuck it on the back.

Yeah, completely different than what is on these things. I think it is purely cost cutting.


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[5280tunage]

My 2011 5.7L Hemi had a pretty nice looking cover, granted, it was all a heavy plastic, but it still looks good. Sometimes the subtle cosmetic things have a way of making you feel like you got a little more for the money. I get it, it has almost zero real effect (some engines have sound deadening material etc) but seriously... I agree with Loki, likely cost cutting. But I'd say you'd be better off not putting the cardboard undercarriage crap on then removing an engine aesthetic. That junk caused more issues collected mud, hanging down when full, catching on stuff.

If it's cost cutting, that's pretty desperate. Saving probably $30-35 per vehicle when the starting price is $50K+...

 

[5280tunage]

If Ford found out the engine covers were causing fires and didn’t immediately issue a recall they’d be effed.

Curious what a “performance” engine cover does?

Loki is correct, just simply has red and white lettering and says Ford Performance on it. Otherwise its pretty identical. I've always enjoyed a good looking engine bay.

 

[5280tunage]

Double post, sorry.

 

[Bunky]

At first I envisioned your expy missing the hood. Silly me.

 

[Rtrower]

My 2011 5.7L Hemi had a pretty nice looking cover, granted, it was all a heavy plastic, but it still looks good. Sometimes the subtle cosmetic things have a way of making you feel like you got a little more for the money. I get it, it has almost zero real effect (some engines have sound deadening material etc) but seriously... I agree with Loki, likely cost cutting. But I'd say you'd be better off not putting the cardboard undercarriage crap on then removing an engine aesthetic. That junk caused more issues collected mud, hanging down when full, catching on stuff.

If it's cost cutting, that's pretty desperate. Saving probably $30-35 per vehicle when the starting price is $50K+...

 

[Rtrower]

$30 x 1,000,000= ???

Lotsa $$$$.

 

[5280tunage]

$30 x 1,000,000= ???

Lotsa $$$$.

Ditto:
$3625 profit sharing check x 50k+
$65k+ x 1,000,000.

But you want to take a $30 part from vehicles, plus the ambient lighting, etc...

I get it, not the same thing, but to the consumer we continue to get less for more.