2022 Expy announced

[2018ExpyPlatinum]

It will be interesting to see what does and doesn't have ventilated seats. I think the bigger issue is, at $65,000 plus, it should. I mean, call me spoiled, but I expect it. Much cheaper cars today have cooled and heated seats. Think Ford really muffed this. I understand a full redo is coming in 2024?

 

[bill_b]

Came back to see if the new grille and headlights has grown on me...... looks worse than the first time I saw it lol. I know with mid cycle refreshes they often make the most changes to grilles/headlights but did the expedition really need touched?!?!

I too will most likely look to the navigator when I go to replace my expedition in a few years.

 

[Gumby]

This to me says the seats might still be dual as there is no icon for heat OR cooling. IDK...

 

[Chio4]

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This to me says the seats might still be dual as there is no icon for heat OR cooling. IDK...

Good catch. I think you could be correct. I know on some of my other cars it does it for both.

 

[TX-EXPMAX]

it wouldn't surprise me if the seats are only heated on the stealth. we drove a 2021 RST tahoe and the seats were only heated. only until you got to the premier and high country was there cooled seats as well. that would be absolute insanity if the platinum (and even king ranch) didn't have cooled seats...

 

[bill_b]

it wouldn't surprise me if the seats are only heated on the stealth. we drove a 2021 RST tahoe and the seats were only heated. only until you got to the premier and high country was there cooled seats as well. that would be absolute insanity if the platinum (and even king ranch) didn't have cooled seats...

The fords weren't like that though... its hard to get ventilated seats in a GM. You can get ventilated seats in an XLT expedition.

 

[Molaf]

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This to me says the seats might still be dual as there is no icon for heat OR cooling. IDK...

You’re right. Guarantee it’s one button for both settings. Probably have to cycle through or hold to switch between heated or cooled.

 

[Gumby]

Maybe that fan icon next to the heated steering wheel is for ventilated seats (are they really even ac cooled??) so maybe that switches that? Again...IDK

 

[Rob6805]

It will be interesting to see what does and doesn't have ventilated seats. I think the bigger issue is, at $65,000 plus, it should. I mean, call me spoiled, but I expect it. Much cheaper cars today have cooled and heated seats. Think Ford really muffed this. I understand a full redo is coming in 2024?

New platform for the Expedition is planned for 2025.

 

[Johhn14]

There is zero chance that cooled seats is not an option. Zero.

 

[buckwheat-phd]

Great 15" display with lots of good information, but although they tried, they just couldn't find a spot for it. I was hoping it wouldn't turn out like this, perhaps all they did was stick a 15" Android Pad up there the best they could with double stick tape. The smaller display in landscape looks so much better, and doesn't stick up above the dash to block your view. Dang it

 

[buckwheat-phd]

Did you all notice on the spec sheet the middle engine and the HO engine says it will use 93 octane? That could be incorrect as they currently only require 91. If true, that's a problem. Most locations out west only have 91. I don't think I've seen 93 since we moved out to AZ.

I'd imagine they made a few ICU mapping changes to get those few extra horses, but if it's not basically the same motor I'd be awfully surprised. Changing valve timing for increased compression may require use of 93 octane, a common practice in European cars to get another 20 horses

 

[sjwhiteley]

The screen needs to be designed by an observant ergonomics engineer who understands human nature, and not some 20something ‘senior programmer’ who thinks he’s hot s***. Bad screen design is torture to users.

One reason I like the more manual heater controls. Very few cars get climate control correct using a screen (land rover is awful!)

 

[Trainmaster]

What a mess auto design has become. If you want a simple, utilitarian truck to get you around your only choice seems to be a pickup. I don't need touch screen, WiFi or computer heating. Seems American manufacturers are giving up this share of the market. I suppose all this trim is one way of getting higher prices without much added cost. Electronics are cheap.

 

[dlcorbett]

You guys, if you want a basic expy, get the stx. Itll still be around on the refresh, and it has physical buttons. Yall make it seem like you have to get the 15in screen if you want the truck, which isn't isn't case.

 

[mamores24]

https://www.ford.com/suvs/expedition/2022/?intcmp=hp-bb-expedition

Platinum, Stealth Performance, and Timberline trims get 440hp.

Blue Cruise an option, standard on Platinum.

Gotta say, it’s not looking bad.

Thanks for sharing! Glad I didnt see this until the weekend or my work week would've gone to hell.

As someone who bought a '21 Expy Stealth in June here are my thoughts:

Some good pros: Like the 12" screen, new tailgate, sports performance Stealth upgrades, Stealth calipers, 22 speakers, Sync4, & digital cluster

Some cons: Dont like the front headlights, 15" screen without buttons, & Stealth rims

Biggest Con: NO SILVER!!! The charcoal grey (Dark Matter) color looks great but will be dirty just like the black. Can't believe there's no silver option. Would have pushed us elsewhere. Glad we got ours when we did.

 

[JExpedition07]

I figured out what’s wrong with the headlights….they are reflectors! CHEAP!!! My rusty 2007 that is soon ready for retirement is reflectors

 

[2018ExpyPlatinum]

I'd imagine they made a few ICU mapping changes to get those few extra horses, but if it's not basically the same motor I'd be awfully surprised. Changing valve timing for increased compression may require use of 93 octane, a common practice in European cars to get another 20 horses

I get ICU changes, mapping changes, etc., but, if I need 93 octane to get my 400 or 440 horses, where I live you can only get 91. Most of the west only has 91. So, what's my horsepower on 91? No point paying for a certain trim level to get higher horses when I can't get them. Just saying.

 

[Deadman]

I can't get anything more than 91 in WI unless I stumble onto some weird station somewhere.

 

[Matthew Marlowe]

Navigator has reduced towing capacity and inflated pricing on black or reserve labels, and expedition max still somewhat limited in payload, tongue weight, and rear suspension. Wagoneer supports 10k lbs towing,, but too short wheelbase.. Like the idea of the new timberline, but if it isn't available with platinum trim- not interested. Is ford trying to push limited to top trim on expedition? Impact of timberline wheels on towing? I'm not seeing enough reason to upgrade yet, at minimum..some kind of hybrid battery still needed. The only compelling vehicle right now for me is the lightning BEV truck.. apparently, there are plans to extend range with add-ons for truck or trailer. Just not sure of lightning payload in higher trims with larger battery.