2023 Limited Vibrating at 80mph

[josephzac]

Hi All,

i know its illegal to drive at 80mph or above and it does not happen often, but when the flowing traffic is over 80 on a 70 limit the new 2023 Limited with less than 1000 miles on it is vibrating. I can feel it on the steering and the floor.

Went to the dealer Sheehy Ford Gaithersburg and they said they cannot test anything more than 65mph and below 65 its fine. So they are not going to fix anything as they cannot replicate it.. What happens if this vibration slowly starts popping at lower speeds in the future?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

 

[josedirte4]

Have you checked your tire pressure lately since the weather has been changing? They could also be out of balance. I know it's a new car, but anything can happen during transport unfortunately.

 

[JasonH]

Tire pressure and balance. The new vehicles sit for extended periods and can get out of round. Might even need a road force balance. If the tires are new you can take them to Discount Tire and have warranties placed on them, then they will do the balance for free.

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

Hi All,

i know its illegal to drive at 80mph or above and it does not happen often, but when the flowing traffic is over 80 on a 70 limit the new 2023 Limited with less than 1000 miles on it is vibrating. I can feel it on the steering and the floor.

Went to the dealer Sheehy Ford Gaithersburg and they said they cannot test anything more than 65mph and below 65 its fine. So they are not going to fix anything as they cannot replicate it.. What happens if this vibration slowly starts popping at lower speeds in the future?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

When my wife and I took a driving trip out west - we drove through several states that had a posted speed limit of 80 mph.

I would return to the Ford dealer (or a different one), and insist that the tires be examined and balanced under terms of your warranty.

 

[HazBeen]

Attached are Ford resources and procedures a dealership tire tech might employ to evaluate & correct your issue.

Good luck!

 

[dlcorbett]

This is common on these trucks. It's all over the 4th gen forum. The common fix is getting all tries road force balanced, however the trouble is getting a shop to do it for you.

 

[mrstimmy]

I just got my 23 Limited Max on Friday and noticed the same thing yesterday! I took mine to Discount Tire and they balanced 3 of the 4 tires. It’s definitely better, but I can still feel it. It’s very disheartening because I never had any issues with my 19 XLT. There is a toll road around here with a posted speed limit of 80, so it’s not like I just want to ignore it. I’ll take it back to DT when I get the chance to have them check again before going to the dealer.

 

[Moeman]

We have a 2022 XLT. It's our first Expedition so I can't compare to other MY's, but man is this thing terrible. I agree that wheel imbalance is probably your issue, but could also be driveline (driveshafts or half-shafts). Agree that if you can't get the Ford dealer to do it, Discount Tire does a good job - I paid $80 for them to rebalance some wheels/tires we bought on line. I managed to get rid of all our speed dependent vibration. Now I just have the impact harshness - you know, hit a small ripple in the road and the whole vehicle resonates like a tuning fork for a second or so.

On a related note, I happened to be doing an oil change this weekend and notice my front FESM bolts (front end sheet metal) off-center to the body mount by about a 1/2". Confirmed with measurements of tire to fender, and body to frame that the whole body was shifted on the frame at the front by like 3/8". So that was part of my Sunday. Loosened all my body mount bolts, nudged the front of the body over to center, and re-tightened. Was hoping that the side-loaded body mounts were part of the vibration problem, but can't say I felt much improvement.

 

[josephzac]

Tire pressure and balance. The new vehicles sit for extended periods and can get out of round. Might even need a road force balance. If the tires are new you can take them to Discount Tire and have warranties placed on them, then they will do the balance for free.

Hi @JasonH , Thanks for the advice.. btw, i got the alignment and balancing.. Alignment was bit off as per the results.. but the vibration still exists..

 

[JasonH]

Hi @JasonH , Thanks for the advice.. btw, i got the alignment and balancing.. Alignment was bit off as per the results.. but the vibration still exists..

Was it the road force balance? If so, next option is to change out the tires. Depending on how much tread is left, there may be a credit available. I've purchased slightly used tires in a pinch so I know some tire shops do have them. I've also worn out tires quickly in my EV and got replacements at half off.

 

[Mr Big]

It's been posted several times that some new vehicles had Perma Seal installed in the tires, which can cause serious vibrations, at speeds over 65mph, due to accumulation of the gel in one area. The fix reported was to swap the wheels and tire with ones that do not have the flat repair Perma Seal installed.

 

[Scooter455]

Hi All,

i know its illegal to drive at 80mph or above and it does not happen often, but when the flowing traffic is over 80 on a 70 limit the new 2023 Limited with less than 1000 miles on it is vibrating. I can feel it on the steering and the floor.

Went to the dealer Sheehy Ford Gaithersburg and they said they cannot test anything more than 65mph and below 65 its fine. So they are not going to fix anything as they cannot replicate it.. What happens if this vibration slowly starts popping at lower speeds in the future?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Do what i did and you drive the car with the tech. I had the tech grab the steering wheel and he could feel it. But they still didnt fix it said they road forced balanced and said it was road sensitivity from the 22" wheels. Just short of chocking this SOB - i told him he was an idiot and i went to another dealer and they are working on it

 

[VCFP153]

Vibration is one of those things that is very subjective, so what may feel like "a lot" to one person may feel like "nothing" to another. People also have different expectations, it's not necessarily logical to expect a vehicle as huge as an Expy to ride a smoothly as, say a Lexus LS.

 

[SyndicateZ]

My 2007 navigator vibrated at high speeds over 65mph. Road force balancing fixed the issue

 

[whtbronco]

Vibration is one of those things that is very subjective, so what may feel like "a lot" to one person may feel like "nothing" to another. People also have different expectations, it's not necessarily logical to expect a vehicle as huge as an Expy to ride a smoothly as, say a Lexus LS.

That is so very true. Sometimes my wife can feel the vehicle vibrations I'm chasing and sometimes she can't.

Our 2004 had a very poor set of Continental tires, one was terribly out of round. Finally the regional Ford mgr just gave me a check to get my own tires with my word that I would not come back to a dealer about the tire issue. I knew how to balance tires and they didn't like it. The funny thing is it wasn't noticeable for like 2 couple months after purchase. I think clearly things change, but some of it may be that we have to get used to a vehicle before we notice abnormalities.

 

[thompsdw2]

This is common on these trucks. It's all over the 4th gen forum. The common fix is getting all tries road force balanced, however the trouble is getting a shop to do it for you.

Completely agree. Discount tire does RFB and my Ford dealer does as well.