2024 expedition vibration

[RazrM5]

This is so crazy. My service guy who is an absolute boss and awesome dude… delivered the car back to my office and he said the shop foreman drove the car after they cross balanced the tires and that the only thing that he sensed was some feedback from the low profile tires.

Of course, I take the car onto the Florida Turnpike and exactly at 73 MPH, the car starts vibrating like nothing ever changed.

It’s the same high frequency vibration, akin to a tuning fork. Pedal, my entire right leg, steering wheel, center armrest, and driver side door armrest. There is also the accompanying mini rattle from some contents inside the vehicle that is apropos with the high frequency vibration.

It’s hard not to lean towards the tires not being the issue but rather something structurally within the frame and its components.

I’m going to ask the shop manager to escalate to Ford directly and pull the rabbit out of his hat with the contact that he mentioned earlier.

Also, considering calling Ford directly myself because this vibration is an absolute joke. Otherwise the vehicle is f’n phenomenal.

I will still try to end this by putting Michelins on.

 

[RazrM5]

Ford Customer service told me 'Since the dealership is assisting you with the cost of replacement tires, there is nothing more we able to do for you at this time'.

/currently pounding salt

 

[RazrM5]

4 Michelin Defender LTX M/S 2 tires on.

Completely different riding vehicle. Even motionless is just ‘sits’ better and tighter.

This is a new car. Vibration not detected above 73MPH.

Out the door for $1,323. (Plus $86,455 for a new Expedition Stealth)

 

[24ExpMaxLtd]

4 Michelin Defender LTX M/S 2 tires on.

Completely different riding vehicle. Even motionless is just ‘sits’ better and tighter.

This is a new car. Vibration not detected above 73MPH.

Out the door for $1,323. (Plus $86,455 for a new Expedition Stealth)

@RazrM5 very glad to hear the Michelins made such a difference - it’s still so unbelievable to me that the Generals are so incompatible with the vehicle and/or such trash but your situation gives me hope…I had my third visit this past Thursday and local dealer put the new set of Generals on mine yesterday and RFB’d them but sadly that did nothing to eliminate the insane amount of vibration, skipping, jitters etc I get. Dealer said next step is them calling Ford - I guess to seek approval for Michelins which the dealer recommended to me at my first visit but suggested I get my salesman at the selling dealer to pay for. More to come…

 

[RazrM5]

 

[rd618]

@rd618 did the Michelin's fix your vibration issue? I'm two weeks in to my new 2024 Exp Max Ltd and its been vibrating's from day one at speeds 30mph+. Road fore balancing did nothing so dealer is chalking up to bad batch of General Grabber tires and replacing with a new General Grabber set later this week.

It was a combination of the Michelin and learning after 4 rebalancing that the machine the dealer was using was not calibrated properly. On top of that the tech kept using LT settings for truck instead of SUV. Even though you can do that, these are not E rated tires, so the LT settings have a wider tolerance band. You feel that when the tires have small sidewall (anything above 20” is smaller sidewall).
I took it to an independent local shop and they immediately found all 4 were off the by exact same amount and the same degree placement of the weights. Now no vibrations (aside from road feel imperfections) over 80. Not ford covered. But for $200 I didn’t care.

 

[RazrM5]

Update: after an additional 500 miles after
installation of the new Michelin shoes… there is a slight perceptible vibration at 75+ MPH. I almost want to say that this is normal for a vehicle built this way at this weight. I believe it has a bit to do with the low profile side wall on these 285/45/22s.

I’ve just never felt this in a comparable German car or SUV. But I believe that this is normal at this point. It took the best quality tires available to get to normal.

I don’t feel like this is something to complain about any further. It is within the realm of acceptability, considering the factors described above. But it also makes me considered not purchasing another Expedition with this size of tire.

 

[24ExpMaxLtd]

It was a combination of the Michelin and learning after 4 rebalancing that the machine the dealer was using was not calibrated properly. On top of that the tech kept using LT settings for truck instead of SUV. Even though you can do that, these are not E rated tires, so the LT settings have a wider tolerance band. You feel that when the tires have small sidewall (anything above 20” is smaller sidewall).
I took it to an independent local shop and they immediately found all 4 were off the by exact same amount and the same degree placement of the weights. Now no vibrations (aside from road feel imperfections) over 80. Not ford covered. But for $200 I didn’t care.

@rd618 did Ford cover the cost of the Michelins or did you have to pay out of pocket for them to replace the OEM tires. You may have already said but I don't recall. That's crazy they were using the wrong vehicle type for the balancing settings.

 

[rd618]

@rd618 did Ford cover the cost of the Michelins or did you have to pay out of pocket for them to replace the OEM tires. You may have already said but I don't recall. That's crazy they were using the wrong vehicle type for the balancing settings.

Vehicle type isn't wrong, you can put type E tires on these, but if you want a higher tolerance you don't want LT selected.

Ford paid for the Michelins.

i paid out of pocket to have the michelins re-balanced, about $200.

 

[LukeWes]

I drove a 2024 XLT with the 20 inch black wheels that had 3 miles on the clock. It had been sitting on the lot since February. It had no vibration whatsoever. Drove a 2024 Limited with 22's and it vibrated. I think its a 22 inch wheel issue on the vehicles.

 

[LukeWes]

I have driven at least 2 additioanl limited's since then and they all had the vibration.

 

[ib_jigged]

Pretty sure it's the General Grabbers in the 22" that's the issue. I'm torn right now between the Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 and Pirelli Scorpion AS plus 3's. Read good things about both.

 

[kyjd75]

Pretty sure it's the General Grabbers in the 22" that's the issue. I'm torn right now between the Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 and Pirelli Scorpion AS plus 3's. Read good things about both.

I can definitely recommend the Michelins. I run them on my Durango R/T and it is smooth as silk all the way to the governor limited top speed (121 mph). I can cruise at 85 mph all day long with no vibration at all.

 

[Ugh_J]

Pretty sure it's the General Grabbers in the 22" that's the issue. I'm torn right now between the Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 and Pirelli Scorpion AS plus 3's. Read good things about both.

I tend to agree. 22"/24" wheels definitely increase the feedback of any tire issues. I ran LTX M/S 18" on my F-150 and those tires/wheels are now on my parents' 2022 Expedition Platinum, and it definitely tamed the ride on it versus the donk 22" wheels it came with from the factory. I've had Pirelli Scorpions on an F-150 several years ago and I would never recommend those to anyone. Extremely harsh. Maybe if you're actually going offroading in it, but my experience was pretty terrible road manners.

 

[ib_jigged]

Before I go the route of paying for new tires, I am having the dealership try and road force balance all of the tires again. 2 weeks ago, the front two were off and they redid them. It was better but, I still was feeling a little vibration in the steering wheel. For an $80k vehicle, I don't think it should feel like this.

Yesterday afternoon, I went to the dealer and drove a Limited Max with the same 22" General Grabbers, and I felt the same thing on that. Then I tried an XLT Max with the 20" Hankook Dynapro's and again, felt the same little shimmy in the steering wheel. Now I am wondering if I am crazy or just being overly nit-picky at this point. They were also going to look into the driveline and see if they could see anything that might stand out. I don't remember our '19 Stealth or '23 Explorer ST doing this. My '21 F150 XLT steering wheel doesn't move at all going down the same stretch of road. According to my Ford Pass, the right front must be dismounted at this time as I got a warning on it and it shows 0psi at the moment. Maybe if I have them exploring more, they might be able to get Ford to replace the tires?

Getting a little frustrated at this point and almost wish I had the ST back, but that sold in 2 days after trading it in. Maybe a new F150 Platinum for the wife instead, lol! I will say my dealership has been great to work with so far!

Update: They determined the right front tire is bad, they dismounted and tried to rotate it on the wheel to see if things got better, they balanced it the best they could and the vibration is still in the steering wheel. They then swapped the right front with right rear and the vibration in the steering wheel is now gone, but felt in the seat. Dealer will warranty the tire and order a new one, or give me $400 toward a new set of my choice. I will let them know in the morning which way I will go, but leaning hard towards the Defenders at this moment!

Bonus, I was also able to take a 2024 Dark Horse w/6 speed for a test drive! That was fun!

 

[joe vanweelden]

My vehicle doesn't have this problem. The tires are Hankook Dynapro ATM

I just bout a 2024 exposition with same problem. They have changed tires three times and it now has Michelin’s and still has a vibration at 70+ miles an hour. What did they do to fix your problem?

 

[Hellwig]

I just bout a 2024 exposition with same problem. They have changed tires three times and it now has Michelin’s and still has a vibration at 70+ miles an hour. What did they do to fix your problem?

No one does anything to my 2024 expedition xlt with 20' wheels. It just has no vibration issue.

 

[RazrM5]

No one does anything to my 2024 expedition xlt with 20' wheels. It just has no vibration issue.

I’m sure this was the exact answer he was looking for

 

[RazrM5]

There is a very fine vibration in my vehicle after 73 mph after putting Michelin Defenders on. It’s livable but still unacceptable to me. I’m going to bring the vehicle to an independent mechanic to inspect the driveshaft. I will literally ask him to lift a vehicle and observe and test for vibration in the driveshaft or the brake calipers. Some of the feedback received has been that this is an ‘unfortunate circumstance’ due to the IRS and or CCD on this particular model of Expedition (‘24 Stealth).

 

[ib_jigged]

RazrM5, keep us posted as to what you find!

I am ordering the Defenders this morning. Hoping that cures the vibration in ours.