2025 Expedition details
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Hopefully test driving the infiniti qx80 tomorrow, will report my findings.
After checking out the journalists vids and the b roll vids on media site, I'm liking it more. I do like the front, and I guess with black paint it would hide the black tailgate motif. I'm actually not mad at the front instrument screen. It's looks like what most mid sized crossover use and the current escalade, the only thing that makes it seem off is how large the interior is and how pushed back it is relative to the steering wheel. It would've looked better if ford added a bezel on the screen, but In front of the driver, it looks rele good tbh. Also, the seats look extremely comfortable, and we all know ford knows how to make comfy seats. In TFLs video, apparently ford told them they redesigned the frame and suspension front and rear. They showed a close up of the rear and it does look slightly different, closer to what the gms suspension arms and sub frame look like. There are some features that It or the nav doesn't have, but its still a nice truck and I actually prefer the interior over the yukon(I do like the Tahoe dash for 2025). I think my initial thought was that they didn't do enough seeing as they knocked it outta the park with the 4th gen, they laid the ground work for a fantastic truck, and with so much potential, just wanted them to stay on the wave. Now I see, they still didn't do everything we wanted, but they did make it competitive enough, and that's all ford wanted to do. The nav is still my fave of all fs suvs atm, but I wouldn't be mad owning one of these.
It's the platinum with stealth performance package. It's my fave look too, followed by the king ranch.
The 2025 Ford Expedition gets Cool New Features, More Tech and a Tremor version!
I give you an in-depth tour of the 2025 Ford Expedition. It gets extensive changes to the exterior and interior, along with some thoughtful changes aimed at ...
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This is the one...I love this color combo
lurch
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I like the new Tremor package and the new split tailgate. Really wish they would put the PowerBoost on it already. The Navigator dash is nicer, but I use my Expedition to rough for a luxury interior. I take it off-road a few times a year and would feel more confident with the Tremor skid plates.
newyorkistansux
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Damn, the current stealth performance package is pricey enough with the limited. Now we need to get the platinum for the stealth performance package … kinda wish they called it an ST version just so there would be an included ST Experience like the Explorer has.
It is already growing on me some. I like the exterior, minus the black upper liftgate. Dash and steering wheel will take some time. I would like to drive it to get a feel for a wheel shaped like that. Seeing it in person would help to understand the dash layout better I think. Really was also hoping to see the Powerboost as an option as well!
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Aggie76
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Spouse and I had been waiting to make a decision between new Yukon XL or this new Expedition to replace our '15 Yukon XL. After seeing some leaked images of both she wasn't excited enough to wait for either '25 models. I think once she gets to see, touch and drive the new Expedition she may warm to it for a future year purchase. I certainly like some of the changes that I see this morning.
We had ordered the first year 5th generation Explorer in 2011 without seeing it in person and regretted doing so for a variety of reasons. Good vehicle but just didn't fit her expectations so lesson learning.
We had ordered the first year 5th generation Explorer in 2011 without seeing it in person and regretted doing so for a variety of reasons. Good vehicle but just didn't fit her expectations so lesson learning.
Interesting. I don’t hate it. It actually looks better than the leaked photos for some reason.
Not a fan of the dash but I don like the storage and the 40-20-40 3rd row seat.
I’ve skimmed some videos and Ford’s website has practically no info (why bother? It only goes on sale in 3 weeks), but has anyone seen anything about a Tremor Max? I’m guessing there isn’t one but it would be nice.
Not a fan of the dash but I don like the storage and the 40-20-40 3rd row seat.
I’ve skimmed some videos and Ford’s website has practically no info (why bother? It only goes on sale in 3 weeks), but has anyone seen anything about a Tremor Max? I’m guessing there isn’t one but it would be nice.
lurch
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I am curious about the new suspension. It was mentioned a few times but no details on what is new about it.
99WhiteC5Coupe
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Production of the 2025 Expedition will begin on January 6, 2025: https://fordauthority.com/2024/10/2025-ford-expedition-production-begins-in-january/
I wonder if the 2025 Expedition model year will be a short one, or if Ford will continue to push-back the start-of-production dates for future model years?
Throw in a delivery delay due to Ford quality-checks, and the 2025 models may not be delivered until the spring of 2025.
I wonder if the 2025 Expedition model year will be a short one, or if Ford will continue to push-back the start-of-production dates for future model years?
Throw in a delivery delay due to Ford quality-checks, and the 2025 models may not be delivered until the spring of 2025.
Allow me to predict Ford will either run out of Black and Dark Matter Paint AND/OR they will allow a consumer who prefers one of the other colors, to get their fancy new tailgate painted to match. Still scratching my head here but don't think I'll be swapping the Timberline +$30 grand for a Tremor.
JimmyM
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Fail. No hybrid? That's just lazy. That's "good enough" product design. My 23 is safe in my driveway. Added style, good or bad, but no substance.
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Armin
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I'm just not feeling it. I was planning on getting one, but I'll now just squeeze another year out of my 2017, or see if I get a good deal on a 2024.
But to me this is a 4th gen redesign, not "all new". Same chassis, same engine, same gearbox. No hybrid! New suspension alone doesn't cut it to call it a new generation.
Now, I personally don't care about generation perse, and to be fair I think the new looks are gorgeous. But if you are going to introduce it as a new gen, you got to bring the goods. The lack of hybrid is really disappointing. Let's be honest, many of us will be between soft-offroad / outdoor sports and towing still mostly do city driving. This would have pushed Ford again as undisputed the best-in-class engine wise, as they became when they introduced the ecoboost in 2015. I guess converting the Kentucky line was too expensive after all?
Ford also seems to think they hit a home run with the tailgate based on how much marketing and effort they put into it. They likely did hit it with a certain group of customers who are into tailgating. But for me it is the opposite. My own experience with it with BWM (X5 and X6) is positive, but those are different cars. Their storage space is much less deep and their lower gate is low and easy to lift over. In the Expedition with the 3rd seat down, I barely can reach the back without the lower gate, so it is likely going to be a dent and scratch-fest. But real dealbreaker is the fact the window doesn't seem to open anymore (Or am I wrong?), which makes it impossible to open the gate with my large 4-bike-rack on. For me all those tailgate features just add to the base-cost to the car, with reduced benefit compared to the old setup. So for me it is a second strike-out after the hybrid.
The dash doesn't look as bad as the spy-shots, and I like in principle the setup. I also think it is much better than the large vertical iPad. But it looks to me this dash was designed for the Navigator and the Expedition was a secondary thought. That empty space is in essence a reminder of that every time you get in. Also, the Navigator has the screen slightly pushed down, allowing for storage between the screens. On the Expedition you get only a pen-holder, making the already lowest-in-class dash storage ever worse. I admit the slidable arm-rest storage is nice, but that electric motor is again added base-cost, will eventually break and then probably means an expensive date-night-out to repair and seem to be very slow based on the videos. A simple rail would have done it better IMHO. All in all the dash does strike it out for me completely.
Since the car will not available anyway deep into 2025, it is probably better to wait for 2026 or get a good deal on a 2024. But based on this I doubt this puts much pressure on the 2024 stock in dealerships.
But to me this is a 4th gen redesign, not "all new". Same chassis, same engine, same gearbox. No hybrid! New suspension alone doesn't cut it to call it a new generation.
Now, I personally don't care about generation perse, and to be fair I think the new looks are gorgeous. But if you are going to introduce it as a new gen, you got to bring the goods. The lack of hybrid is really disappointing. Let's be honest, many of us will be between soft-offroad / outdoor sports and towing still mostly do city driving. This would have pushed Ford again as undisputed the best-in-class engine wise, as they became when they introduced the ecoboost in 2015. I guess converting the Kentucky line was too expensive after all?
Ford also seems to think they hit a home run with the tailgate based on how much marketing and effort they put into it. They likely did hit it with a certain group of customers who are into tailgating. But for me it is the opposite. My own experience with it with BWM (X5 and X6) is positive, but those are different cars. Their storage space is much less deep and their lower gate is low and easy to lift over. In the Expedition with the 3rd seat down, I barely can reach the back without the lower gate, so it is likely going to be a dent and scratch-fest. But real dealbreaker is the fact the window doesn't seem to open anymore (Or am I wrong?), which makes it impossible to open the gate with my large 4-bike-rack on. For me all those tailgate features just add to the base-cost to the car, with reduced benefit compared to the old setup. So for me it is a second strike-out after the hybrid.
The dash doesn't look as bad as the spy-shots, and I like in principle the setup. I also think it is much better than the large vertical iPad. But it looks to me this dash was designed for the Navigator and the Expedition was a secondary thought. That empty space is in essence a reminder of that every time you get in. Also, the Navigator has the screen slightly pushed down, allowing for storage between the screens. On the Expedition you get only a pen-holder, making the already lowest-in-class dash storage ever worse. I admit the slidable arm-rest storage is nice, but that electric motor is again added base-cost, will eventually break and then probably means an expensive date-night-out to repair and seem to be very slow based on the videos. A simple rail would have done it better IMHO. All in all the dash does strike it out for me completely.
Since the car will not available anyway deep into 2025, it is probably better to wait for 2026 or get a good deal on a 2024. But based on this I doubt this puts much pressure on the 2024 stock in dealerships.
I don't hate it, either. It's not ugly or grotesque. The way the grill and front trim sweep up at the ends make it look like it's grinning at me. Not a fan of that look. I like the new tailgate, but I'm skeptical of the black treatment. If it's piano black plastic, it will be covered with scratches and swirls after a few years. The extra lighting in the tailgate and roof rack is nice.
Not a fan of the dash, either. Looks like a big shelf that will collect all sorts of sunglasses, sandwich wrappers, receipts, small dogs, and who knows what else. The fabric-like material looks difficult to keep clean. The sliding console is interesting, but did you notice that the movement was powered? Another motor and switch to fail.
Speaking of which, I am absolutely not a fan of the headlight controls being in the touch screen. Another very important operating function to that might fail down the road.
All the tech in new vehicles is nice, but I worry about the long-term reliability. My 2002 and 2015 Expeditions were pretty reliable and didn't have a lot of electronic things to fail. For whatever reason, Ford, and every auto manufacturer, no longer build simple, reliable vehicles.
I took that to mean that the suspension parts had been redesigned, maybe move bushings and pivot points a bit, but not a major redesign.
I have a two-part theory about this. 1. Ford was pushing their rear wheel drive/four wheel drive hybrid drive train on the police version of the Explorer. But, they've dropped the 3.3 liter V-6 hybrid from civilian Explorers. If they are maxing out their manufacturing capability in that market, they may not have parts for us civilians. =OR= 2. Ford isn't confident about the reliability of their hybrid drive train which is why they've dropped it from the Explorer and aren't offering it on the Expedition.
My cou terrorist is the f150. They did a lot of work to fix the hybrid for the f150. They are pushing hybrid sales on the f150, it's volume seller, so I don't think it's a supply concern. Also, because it's on its volume seller, I don't think it's quality either.
Personally, i think they ran out of development funds to properly implement it in the fs suvs, which is why they are pushing it to the refresh.
