4th Gen Expy FORScan Modifications

[rcompart]

Close but not the same. Once the brakes are applied at a stop light, Auto Hold continues to apply the brakes indefinitely so long as it's enabled, the doors are closed and the driver seatbelt is fastened.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Close but not the same. Once the brakes are applied at a stop light, Auto Hold continues to apply the brakes indefinitely so long as it's enabled, the doors are closed and the driver seatbelt is fastened.

Okay, I guess I don't see the need for it.

 

[Artie]

So if you release the brake pedal does the auto on/off then start the car while continuing to keep the brake applied? Assuming at this point your feet aren’t touching any pedals.

 

[rcompart]

If auto start stop has not been deactivated and the brake pedal is depressed enough for the auto hold to engage, the engine will shut off like a regular stop and the brakes will continue to hold the vehicle the same as if you were holding them.

I know plenty of people that find it an unnecessary feature until they’ve used it for a while. Kind of like remote keyless entry. Anyone that grew up inserting a key into a lock cylinder to unlock a vehicle was used to it and didn’t think twice about it then but has become used to RKE enough nowadays that most wouldn’t buy a vehicle without.

 

[Artie]

If auto start stop has not been deactivated and the brake pedal is depressed enough for the auto hold to engage, the engine will shut off like a regular stop and the brakes will continue to hold the vehicle the same as if you were holding them.

I know plenty of people that find it an unnecessary feature until they’ve used it for a while. Kind of like remote keyless entry. Anyone that grew up inserting a key into a lock cylinder to unlock a vehicle was used to it and didn’t think twice about it then but has become used to RKE enough nowadays that most wouldn’t buy a vehicle without.

So true about keyless entry, my wife’s 09 fit doesn’t have it and I couldn’t believe they still made cars without it when we met in 2011.

 

[gtnator]

I use "auto hold" in my BMW every time I drive it. It's awesome during commuting when you have to sit at lots of traffic lights. It sounds silly but now I notice that my foot gets tired of sitting on the brake at lights if I don't use auto hold. Another one of those luxuries you never knew you needed but once you have it you can't live without, lol.

 

[RH512AAA]

Still getting the feel of my 2018 Expedition. Disabling auto stop start sounds good. Still figuring out on drive mode preferences.

One of my frustrations so far is with the 360 degree camera which I love!
Hate that once on, by going in reverse or pushing the button it goes off so easily, as when going from "R" to "D" forward. Would like it to stay on for a set time or better still until a higher vehicle speed is reached. Still want to see where I am in forward as well as reverse for tight situations. The button is a long reach...

Unless I'm missing some user setting, wonder if anyone knows or figures out a
FORScan Mod that could change this behavior??

 

[rcompart]

Still getting the feel of my 2018 Expedition. Disabling auto stop start sounds good. Still figuring out on drive mode preferences.

One of my frustrations so far is with the 360 degree camera which I love!
Hate that once on, by going in reverse or pushing the button it goes off so easily, as when going from "R" to "D" forward. Would like it to stay on for a set time or better still until a higher vehicle speed is reached. Still want to see where I am in forward as well as reverse for tight situations. The button is a long reach...

Unless I'm missing some user setting, wonder if anyone knows or figures out a
FORScan Mod that could change this behavior??

I'm in the same boat. I will be messing around to see if I can figure out the values once I knock out this auto hold modification I've just dove into.

 

[J Ski]

I just took delivery of my 2018 Expedition Limited MAX this morning and by noon, I was already playing around with FORScan. Here is what I have found works so far.

Everything listed below has been confirmed working. If you find something you think is of interest that you have confirmed working, please feel free to add it here so we can build a google doc of all the available modifications.

Here is what I've come up with so far:

BdyCM    726-41-02    xxx0 xxxx xxxx    Disable No Key Present Double Honk

BdyCM    726-27-01    xxxx xxx0 xxxx    Enable Fogs On w/ LED headlamps

BdyCM    726-48-02    x0xx xxxx xxxx    Disable Auto Start Stop

APIM     7D0-01-01    xxxx xxxx xExx    Enable On-Screen H/C Seat Buttons

APIM     7D0-01-01    9xxx xxxx xxxx    Disable Sirius As Audio Source

APIM     7D0-02-01    5753 xxxx xxxx    Data Entry While Vehicle Moving

At this time, whenever I try to write anything to the IPC or DDM/PDM, I receive a "Service procedure has been interrupted." error so I will be sending log files to the FORScan people to see if they can resolve the issue.

So you go and buy a $70,000 truck and already you’re reconfiguring bcm’s? Why not just buy a fancy Denali?

 

[edizzle]

There is nothing a Denali has that the platinum doesn’t! That comment makes no sense!

 

[J Ski]

It allows you to press the brake hard enough to apply the brakes and then release the pedal and the brakes continue to hold until you press the brake again or press the accelerator pedal.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/...016/2016_Lincoln_MKX_Auto_Hold_Fact_Sheet.pdf

http://www.fordservicecontent.com/F...tleSelected=G1767714&topicHRef=G1767715&div=l

Thts not dangerous at all...

 

[rcompart]

Thts not dangerous at all...

You sure seem like you’re pissed about these new vehicles. Let’s get you back to the part of the forum that is less modifying, less unsafe and less minivan-like...

http://www.expeditionforum.com/forums/3rd-gen-2007-2017.40/

 

[rcompart]

I got in touch with FORScan support regarding some of the control units not allowing any blocks to be written and they sent me a newer beta that hasn’t been released yet to try. Unfortunately the 2018 Expys are too new and Ford changed something with them that the software or control units arenot happy with. I will post an update when something changes.

 

[mossback]

The next time you are connected to your truck, would you mind looking at this address: BCM 726-42-01

I'd love to know what the full field of data there is. Thanks!

 

[Dennis48755]

Heh, heh, this is fun.

I made some of the changes rcompart mentioned in the 1st post here.

Love having H/C Seat Buttons on the screen.

I tried: IPC 720-07-01 xxxx xE5x xxxxto turn on the gauge temps, but the write failed.

The next time you are connected to your truck, would you mind looking at this address: BCM 726-42-01

I'd love to know what the full field of data there is. Thanks!

For my 2018 Expedition Limited Max I have: 0100 0000 0071

Dennis

 

[mossback]

Dennis, thanks for that! Very, very interesting. Based on the current general knowledge of the BCM it would seem you have secure idle enabled as part of the AS-BUILT data. So I have one more favor to ask, next time you're in the truck, please start it as per normal, then get out and put the key fob out of range of the vehicle, return to the drivers seat and see if it lets you shift from park into gear.

nick

 

[Dennis48755]

Nick,

I was unable to shift out of park and "No key present" message was posted.

Dennis

 

[mossback]

Thank you for verifying! That's awesome- you guys with 2018's have Secure Idle set from the factory.

I sure as hell wish we could say the same with the 2017 Expys.

 

[edizzle]

What is secure idle?

 

[deweysmith]

If the key leaves the vehicle after it’s already started but still in park it will not shift from park until the key returns to the vehicle. Super handy for those of us with kids in cold climates, among other things.