Buying new Expedition... Still paying MSRP?

[nationalgallery]

Appreciate the feedback on the platinum max purchase for $8k off MSRP.... anyone else have recent experience to share?

BlueCruise!
Carmelo interior

real wood on center console (big difference over plastic) Wollsdorf Leather-wrapped steering wheel 4-way adjustable head restraints Zone Lighting

 

[jjscsix]

I just bought a 2023 Platinum. I got pretty close to $5,000 off list with no BS.

 

[SunnySunshine]

Well my dad and I checked out the Jeep Wagoneer. It definitely has more storage space in the back (we measured the extended version and it is 6ft behind the 2nd row), but you're right, the rest of it sucks. The glove compartment is super small, the seats are uncomfortable, screen is small, no motorized folding mirrors, and I can't believe they don't even have cupholders for the 2nd row (except at the bottom of the doors).

Looks like it is the Ford Expedition for us as well now. Nothing else to choose from for extended wheelbase SUVs.

 

[nationalgallery]

The glove compartment is super small,

Expedition has 2 glove compartments and a large center console.

 

[sctom1]

If you owned Ford stock, then you can get a discount possibly comparable to the X plan.

 

[Mr Big]

There's no comparison from a Wagoneer to a Platinum. Seats, performance, look, features, etc. Platinum all the way.

 

[mwar99]

If you owned Ford stock, then you can get a discount possibly comparable to the X plan.

That ended last year. If you didn't get a code by June you can't use that, and it might have expired by now even if you did get a code.

 

[philggg]

I am pricing out an ordering a Timberline version. List is $85,700. I have checked with several dealers (Illinois and Washington State) and neither will go lower than MSRP. Does anyone know where dealers are selling below MSRP? Apparently, not where I am at.

 

[Shakeandbake]

If you owned Ford stock, then you can get a discount possibly comparable to the X plan.

What if I only have Put options?

 

[SunnySunshine]

What if I only have Put options?

I'm not a financial expert but I do trade on the stock market. I would think having options on certain stocks wouldn't give you any special treatment from the company as your relation/contract is with a 3rd party. Now if you owned stocks, or you exercised the option buying shares, that would make you a shareholder, or partial owner of the company.

There's no comparison from a Wagoneer to a Platinum. Seats, performance, look, features, etc. Platinum all the way.

Unless you're getting the Grand Wagoneer, I agree. If you're not willing to pay Ford $800 annually for Blue Cruise, then I'd say even the cheapest Grand Wagoneer beats the Ford Platinum (but you're paying almost $10,000 more than the Ford). The regular Wagoneer is no comparison though.

 

[nationalgallery]

If you're not willing to pay Ford $800 annually for Blue Cruise,

The only info I can find on a BlueCruise annual fee is for the Mach-E and F-150 — do you have any info specific to Platinum Expedition?

 

[SunnySunshine]

The only info I can find on a BlueCruise annual fee is for the Mach-E and F-150 — do you have any info specific to Platinum Expedition?

If you build a 2024 Expedition Platinum, the 3 year BlueCruise subscription is a $2100 add-on (if you don't get it, you get 90 day trial). I don't have any articles or anything that they are charging $800 annually after that (as you said info is on F-150s and Mach-E), but I doubt they'd make it a different price for the Expeditions only.

 

[nationalgallery]

If you build a 2024 Expedition Platinum, the 3 year BlueCruise subscription is a $2100 add-on (if you don't get it, you get 90 day trial).

That add-on is new for a 2024 MY build. $93K now!

 

[SunnySunshine]

@nationalgallery The vehicle my dad and I built is around $93,000. We didn't option the BlueCruise unless the dealer can give it to us for free. But we're most likely using the X-Plan discount we can get through Google (dad works there). We're waiting for the order guide to come out before ordering.

 

[Old Dog]

The only info I can find on a BlueCruise annual fee is for the Mach-E and F-150 — do you have any info specific to Platinum Expedition?

I have a 2022 Platinum Max with BLUE CRUSE. MINE CAME WITH A 3 YEAR FREE SUBSCRIPTION PLUS 3 YEAR MAP UPATES. Ford pass is how I found out, dealer never mentioned it.

 

[SunnySunshine]

I have a 2022 Platinum Max with BLUE CRUSE. MINE CAME WITH A 3 YEAR FREE SUBSCRIPTION PLUS 3 YEAR MAP UPATES. Ford pass is how I found out, dealer never mentioned it.

I wish it was still like that... They are charging up front for the 2024 Expedition. We would have totally swallowed a $200-$300 annual subscription (GM Super Cruise is $250 annually stand alone or $150 annually if added on another OnStar Plan I believe). $800 is just insane. Does Ford seriously think people will pay that?! Heck we don't even want to pay the $700 a year up front.

 

[SyndicateZ]

I like how the car manufacturers are going away from the most important and first safety thing you learned from driving school, mom, dad etc.....and charging a boat load for it

Keep your hands on the wheel. Stop being lazy and drive. Just my opinion.

 

[SunnySunshine]

I like how the car manufacturers are going away from the most important and first safety thing you learned from driving school, mom, dad etc.....and charging a boat load for it

Keep your hands on the wheel. Stop being lazy and drive. Just my opinion.

While I don't completely disagree, some sort of automation would be handy on long road trips, traffic (which is a huge headache in the SF Bay), or driving at night. Machines don't get tired, but you do. I don't know how many times my dad and I have swerved out of the lane by accident while driving on long road trips, with my dad actually falling asleep behind the wheel a couple times at night. Happened a few times commuting to and from work too. Humans fatigue unfortunately.

 

[nationalgallery]

I have a 2022 Platinum Max with BLUE CRUSE. MINE CAME WITH A 3 YEAR FREE SUBSCRIPTION PLUS 3 YEAR MAP UPATES. Ford pass is how I found out, dealer never mentioned it.

I checked the app — thanks for the tip! I picked up my 22 Platinum Nov '22, so I have 3 yrs free.

 

[nationalgallery]

While I don't completely disagree, some sort of automation would be handy on long road trips, traffic (which is a huge headache in the SF Bay), or driving at night. Machines don't get tired, but you do. I don't know how many times my dad and I have swerved out of the lane by accident while driving on long road trips, with my dad actually falling asleep behind the wheel a couple times at night. Happened a few times commuting to and from work too. Humans fatigue unfortunately.

You're absolutely right. I've dozed off for a second or two many times on the freeway late at night, sometimes when driving home from a long workout; thankfully for only a second or two. I know someone who dozed off for a few seconds and flipped his car; he survived but was left permanently blind.

If BlueCruise is engaged and the cameras detect you're not alert and looking at the road you get audible warnings and then it slows down and starts brake-checking the car — all while keeping you in your lane and a safe distance from the car in front of you. If you're dozing it definitely wakes you up in a hurry. A potential lifesaver, IMO.