Did anyone purchase the new expedition with X-plan?
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aggiegrad05
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We bought our Navigator on xplan but we ordered ours when the order banks opened in 2017 for the 2018’s. We expected them to not be wheeling and dealing and we were correct. If we were buying now we’d try to deal first.
armoredsaint
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my dealer beat the x plan pricing even before i mentioned it to him
Pete6114
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Z plan (retiree plan) for me. I also get 4 X-Plan Pins per year for friends and neighbors
Grey ghost
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I had x plan, I did ok on an 18 a year ago this month. Next time I may not bother
Going_Going_Gone
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We ordered our Expedition as soon as the 2019 order banks opened. This was our family's eleventh new vehicle from that dealership and our salesman wrote up this deal at invoice price less half of holdback less current incentives which were then only $750. One of our sons had ordered his 2018 Super Duty from the same salesman a year earlier and got a similar deal. But then last September, another son wanted to order a 2020 Super Duty and the best they would offer him was X-plan. He said "thanks, but no thanks" and went out and beat the X-Plan pricing elsewhere. Loyalty isn't the two-way street it used to be any more and a deal is where you find it. What I'm saying is that you can walk in off the street now and negotiate a price below X-Plan if you know your "stuff' and make them work to sell the vehicle to you. X-Plan is helpful in that it does cap dealer fees, so it will prevent you being overcharged for doc fees.
carymccarr
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I’ve worked with over a dozen dealers and the best I could get on a Navi BL was 6-7% off a special order. Beats xplan though.
Lou Hamilton
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This ^^^
If you are looking at a new model or special ordering one, use the X-plan. Otherwise, you will be able to negotiate a better deal on your own. I picked up my 2019 as the 2020s were coming on to the lots. They beat my X-plan discount by over $10K. Also, you can't stack discounts when using your X-plan like a normal negotiation.
songshan311
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All the dealers beat the X-plan significantly in the Houston area when I was purchasing our 19 max limited in Nov. 2019.
JennyD
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Joining the chorus of "dealer beat the X-Plan" - it wasn't even close for us.
My dealer really grumbled about doing X-Plan and of course didn't offer to beat it. I made the rookie mistake of thinking it was going to be the best deal over negotiating. I won't make that mistake again on the next Ford.
I didn't have a choice on the GT500 several years ago as it wasn't on X-Plan, but back then I was able to eventually get one at MSRP but it took contacting about a dozen dealers all over the state. I can't imagine what the pricing will be like if I get serious about another GT500 next year. It's all just a racket.
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I'd love a GT500, those are amazing cars. Both those and the Raptors demand a premium for sure.
I had an X-plan pin via Mustang Club and ended up getting a much better deal as well from the dealer. I will say that knowing the X-plan price gave me a good starting point when it came to negotiating. If I would have known that I could have just accessed the X-plan site without having to have the pin I would have just done that first. Luckily it was only 20$ or something for the Mustang Club membership, so I felt it was more than fair.
It's good I don't have space. I'd be eating Ramen and have a Raptor and a new GT500 being towed by a new Expedition. Not a truck guy per se, but I have several co-workers that have Raptors and they're pretty amazing. Shame they don't tow or carry more people...
Flexpedition
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Not arguing, I am curious, of those who say the dealership beat X-plan pricing - did the dealership show you a printout that listed the X-plan price? Usually they call it "the invoice" which is anymore a mostly fictional document or misnomer. The form I've seen also listed A/Z and D numbers adjacent to X-plan, which were obscured, but I was able to see with my own eyes what my X-plan price was. Has always been number an odd number & to the penny ... and certainly not handwritten by a smooth sales manager.
Random example of a Ford invoice (lack of better terms) that lists the numbers. If your dealer showed you something other than this, then who knows what you really were looking at.
A local GMC dealer has been holding onto the 'employee pricing plus' gimmick. My work has a fleet of GM products so we get whatever the GM equivalent is. Coworker recently bought a new Sierra and no surprise, our fleet discount was significantly better than what the dealership wants you to think a GM employee pays. I get marketing, but come on....
Random example of a Ford invoice (lack of better terms) that lists the numbers. If your dealer showed you something other than this, then who knows what you really were looking at.
A local GMC dealer has been holding onto the 'employee pricing plus' gimmick. My work has a fleet of GM products so we get whatever the GM equivalent is. Coworker recently bought a new Sierra and no surprise, our fleet discount was significantly better than what the dealership wants you to think a GM employee pays. I get marketing, but come on....
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carymccarr
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Not arguing, I am curious, of those who say the dealership beat X-plan pricing - did the dealership show you a printout that listed the X-plan price? Usually they call it "the invoice" which is anymore a mostly fictional document or misnomer. The form I've seen also listed A/Z and D numbers adjacent to X-plan, which were obscured, but I was able to see with my own eyes what my X-plan price was. Has always been number an odd number & to the penny ... and certainly not handwritten by a smooth sales manager.
A local GMC dealer has been holding onto the "employee pricing plus" gimmick. My work has a fleet of GM products so we get whatever the GM equivalent is. Coworker recently bought a new Sierra and no surprise, our fleet discount was better than what the dealership wants you to think a GM employee pays. I get marketing, but come on....
Random example of a Ford invoice (lack of better terms) that lists the numbers. If your dealer showed you something other than this, then who knows what you really were looking at.
You can pull xplan pricing right from the xplan site I believe can’t you?
Flexpedition
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Could be possible, I've personally never seen it.
I have, however, had an xplan price written on the back of a business card. Which turned out to not be xplan price after all. Some dealers just fuel distrust.
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