Disabled Auto Engine Off But Still Shuts Off

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I have a 2020 Expedition. I have gone through the settings using my steering wheel controls and disabled the Auto Engine Off - 30 min. Max Idle. I do not want my truck to shut itself off EVER. But after awhile (30mins) I get the message to “Push OK” to keep my vehicle running. And if I’m not in the driver’s seat, I don’t see the message and the truck shuts off. I keep going back to the settings and it shows as disabled. How do I make this setting permanent? If I want my truck to run for 1 or 2 or 6 hours, idling in park, I should be able to.
 

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I have a 2020 Expedition. I have gone through the settings using my steering wheel controls and disabled the Auto Engine Off - 30 min. Max Idle. I do not want my truck to shut itself off EVER. But after awhile (30mins) I get the message to “Push OK” to keep my vehicle running. And if I’m not in the driver’s seat, I don’t see the message and the truck shuts off. I keep going back to the settings and it shows as disabled. How do I make this setting permanent? If I want my truck to run for 1 or 2 or 6 hours, idling in park, I should be able to.
Welcome to the forum @RosaryPea !
You might want to read this link.


I own a 2020 and the Auto Stop Eliminator works perfectly for me.
 

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Welcome to the forum @RosaryPea !
You might want to read this link.


I own a 2020 and the Auto Stop Eliminator works perfectly for me.
The OP is not talking about the Auto Start Stop feature. They are referring to the auto engine off at idle.
 

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I have a 2020 Expedition. I have gone through the settings using my steering wheel controls and disabled the Auto Engine Off - 30 min. Max Idle. I do not want my truck to shut itself off EVER. But after awhile (30mins) I get the message to “Push OK” to keep my vehicle running. And if I’m not in the driver’s seat, I don’t see the message and the truck shuts off. I keep going back to the settings and it shows as disabled. How do I make this setting permanent? If I want my truck to run for 1 or 2 or 6 hours, idling in park, I should be able to.
I do believe that setting does not persist through key cycles. It goes back to default shutting the engine off after 30min idle time. However, once disabled in the current key on it should not shut down the engine. I have used this when updating the Sync system where a Nav update will take almost an hour and the engine did not shut off.
 
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I do believe that setting does not persist through key cycles. It goes back to default shutting the engine off after 30min idle time. However, once disabled in the current key on it should not shut down the engine. I have used this when updating the Sync system where a Nav update will take almost an hour and the engine did not shut off.
I wondered that, but when I go back to look at the settings, it’s still disabled/unchecked. But if it does reset between key cycles, they could’ve just made it easier by a push button like the auto start/stop button I have to push every single time I start my truck.
 

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I wondered that, but when I go back to look at the settings, it’s still disabled/unchecked. But if it does reset between key cycles, they could’ve just made it easier by a push button like the auto start/stop button I have to push every single time I start my truck.
It’s rare for people to need a vehicle to run without a driver for 30 minutes.
For the exceptions they have the feature you access in the menu.
Same situation for people towing the vehicle in neutral, not used often so you need to access it through steps.
 
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It’s rare for people to need a vehicle to run without a driver for 30 minutes.
For the exceptions they have the feature you access in the menu.
Same situation for people towing the vehicle in neutral, not used often so you need to access it through steps.
I understand that it’s not typical for people to run their vehicles that long without a driver. I just was hoping to find a permanent solution so that I can because I’m in the group of rare people that need to run their vehicles for extended periods of time. I was under the impression that accessing it through the steps was permanent given that it stays marked as disabled even after multiple key cycles.
 

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I understand that it’s not typical for people to run their vehicles that long without a driver. I just was hoping to find a permanent solution so that I can because I’m in the group of rare people that need to run their vehicles for extended periods of time. I was under the impression that accessing it through the steps was permanent given that it stays marked as disabled even after multiple key cycles.
Check forscan. Police have the option for extended idle and they don’t select it every time. I don’t know if expedition has the same option as the explorer. They are different platforms but some features might carry over.
 

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Is there a second key in the vehicle or close to it when you set this setting? Some are key specific and if it sees two keys it might not be able to retain the setting.
 
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Is there a second key in the vehicle or close to it when you set this setting? Some are key specific and if it sees two keys it might not be able to retain the setting.
I hadn’t thought of that but no. I keep one key at home which is far from where I’m at when I need to keep my truck running for extended periods of time
 

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Police Engine (High) Idle feature descriptions from the 2020 Police Interceptor Utility (Explorer) Owners Manual...

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The Headlamp Control's red-boxed secondary switch is shown as enabling/disabling the Police Engine (High) Idle feature...

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...according to the Police Interceptor Utility Wiring Diagram...

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Good luck!
 
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Police Engine (High) Idle feature descriptions from the 2020 Police Interceptor Utility (Explorer) Owners Manual...

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The Headlamp Control's red-boxed secondary switch is shown as enabling/disabling the Police Engine (High) Idle feature...

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...according to the Police Interceptor Utility Wiring Diagram...

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Good luck!

It bears mentioning that Police Idle Feature is a separate option on Interceptors, I've owned 3, a 2017 and 2021 Explorer and a 2017 Taurus. Only the Taurus had it. It is, interestingly enough, standard on the Chargers, except they call it "Secure Idle Feature". My current SSV, of course, does not have it, since it's not offered as an option, HOWEVER, since the SSV is the only Expy that still uses an actual key, I can keep it running by simply leaving it on with the key still in it, as a "normal car". I can then lock or unlock it with my spare fob. Interestingly enough, I do NOT need to keep it running for extended periods of time.
 
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