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Bill Kossowan

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My 2016 has an issue with minor noise and vibration coming from the front end when making a turn.

Outside of noticing it there is no apparent tire wear nor mechanical difficulty. I bought the vehicle used and it came that way.

My Expedition has 84K miles, I like the vehicle and would like to get it resolved.
 

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My 2016 has an issue with minor noise and vibration coming from the front end when making a turn.

Outside of noticing it there is no apparent tire wear nor mechanical difficulty. I bought the vehicle used and it came that way.

My Expedition has 84K miles, I like the vehicle and would like to get it resolved.
Jack it up and check for wheel movement.
 

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I've got a 2016 with 85,000 mi, and I'm experiencing something similar. Groaning / moaning on cool mornings when making slow turns, but no vibration in my case.

So, I'm interested to hear some theories as well.

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I've got a 2016 with 85,000 mi, and I'm experiencing something similar. Groaning / moaning on cool mornings when making slow turns, but no vibration in my case.

So, I'm interested to hear some theories as well.

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Sounds like maybe power steering, I would change the fluid with Mercon V for starters.
 

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Sounds like maybe power steering, I would change the fluid with Mercon V for starters.
I've only been the owner for a few months so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's an electronic power steering system.

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I've only been the owner for a few months so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's an electronic power steering system.

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They did switch to that when they went to the V-6.
 
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I’ll have to make an appointment and get it into the shop to get checked out.

I’ve lived with it for awhile and it hasn’t worsened over time, but the smart move is fix it.

Thought I would ask the group with the thought that I wasn’t over looking the obvious, hoping it might be something simple, possibly something I could DIY repair.
 

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I’ll have to make an appointment and get it into the shop to get checked out.

I’ve lived with it for awhile and it hasn’t worsened over time, but the smart move is fix it.

Thought I would ask the group with the thought that I wasn’t over looking the obvious, hoping it might be something simple, possibly something I could DIY repair.
I'm still leaning towards PS but good luck
 

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I’ll have to make an appointment and get it into the shop to get checked out.

I’ve lived with it for awhile and it hasn’t worsened over time, but the smart move is fix it.

Thought I would ask the group with the thought that I wasn’t over looking the obvious, hoping it might be something simple, possibly something I could DIY repair.

Just wanted check in and see if you were ever able to diagnose the problem.
 

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Welp, hope that your problem ends up being different from mine. I finally got around to taking my expedition to the shop... It needs a new rear differential.

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Welp, hope that your problem ends up being different from mine. I finally got around to taking my expedition to the shop... It needs a new rear differential.

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New rear diff? Not just the LSD clutch packs?
 

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The shop said it needed a while new diff. I've only been going to this mechanic for about a year, but they've always seemed very honest and fair, so I don't have any reason to distrust them.

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The shop said it needed a while new diff. I've only been going to this mechanic for about a year, but they've always seemed very honest and fair, so I don't have any reason to distrust them.

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Ok just seems pretty excessive for 85k and pretty minor symptoms. Mine 105k pretty good grinding/vibration when accelerating while turning from a stop. LSD clutch packs took care of everything.
 

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The shop said it needed a while new diff. I've only been going to this mechanic for about a year, but they've always seemed very honest and fair, so I don't have any reason to distrust them.

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I don't trust any of them. I fix my own but occasionally take it in but had nothing but ripoffs and grief from ALL of them. It's very rare for a diff to go bad unless it leaked oil or got water in it.
 

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The shop said it needed a while new diff. I've only been going to this mechanic for about a year, but they've always seemed very honest and fair, so I don't have any reason to distrust them.

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Would be good to ask them what exactly is wrong that requires an entire new differential.
 

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I don't trust any of them. I fix my own but occasionally take it in but had nothing but ripoffs and grief from ALL of them. It's very rare for a diff to go bad unless it leaked oil or got water in it.

Ya, hard to know if you're getting ripped off if you're not able to put your eyes on it. I've had good luck with the local ford dealer, they diagnosed the clutch packs almost immediately just by a quick drive. They work with these vehicles everyday and are aware of the common issues, this being one of them. But it doesn't hurt to question repairs or have them explain why it's needed.
 

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Ya, hard to know if you're getting ripped off if you're not able to put your eyes on it. I've had good luck with the local ford dealer, they diagnosed the clutch packs almost immediately just by a quick drive. They work with these vehicles everyday and are aware of the common issues, this being one of them. But it doesn't hurt to question repairs or have them explain why it's needed.
I honestly wouldn't know what to look for even if they had let me take a peek. I asked what the problem was and what caused it. I don't fully remember their answers, but essentially he said that when they tore down the differential, it was full of metal. I asked what caused it and they said it was hard to tell, but said that they see rear diff failures more frequently in vehicles with independent rear suspensions. He also mentioned something about the aluminum housing possibly playing some role.

He found a low mileage (35k) differential in a neighboring state that will work with my gearing, and they said they could swap it out for $1600.

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I honestly wouldn't know what to look for even if they had let me take a peek. I asked what the problem was and what caused it. I don't fully remember their answers, but essentially he said that when they tore down the differential, it was full of metal. I asked what caused it and they said it was hard to tell, but said that they see rear diff failures more frequently in vehicles with independent rear suspensions. He also mentioned something about the aluminum housing possibly playing some role.

He found a low mileage (35k) differential in a neighboring state that will work with my gearing, and they said they could swap it out for $1600.

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That blows, seems like a good price for the work that's being done though
 

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I would demand to get the old parts back, have a friend look at them, and maybe take them to court. They constantly rip people off. Some metal in there doesn't mean the whole thing is bad!
 
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