Had my truck rust treated today (pics)

[Muddy Bean]

Bullbeep You can still see the drips, it was just sprayed. You expect people to believe, you spent money to undercoat a 20yr old 300K truck, you traded in a month later? No dealer would take something that old or high mileage, as a trade. If they did, it was scrap price. I doubt you "give away" a car, in almost new condition. I have 2001 Lincoln, that spent most of its life in Florida. The underside looks almost brand new. Did this 300K Toyota, get driven in winter and salt covered roads or Arizona? Even your bare metal E brake cable has no surface rust. Toyota also factory undercoats. Nice try Krown.

Classy response. Sorry to disappoint but I don’t represent Krown. I’m a full time career musician that has nothing to do with them except I’ve had a great experience with their applications. Yes those pics were taken a week after it was sprayed and shortly before I traded it in. I thought I was going to keep the truck and then we had a little bit of a safety scare with my 2 year old in her car seat with my sound equipment that encouraged us to buy an EL for the extra room behind the third row. I don’t understand how that has anything to do with anything. You can clearly see my Michigan truck is rust free still. Am I really making up trading the truck in..? Call Holiday Ford in Fort Worth where I drove to buy my EL and traded in my LC. Talk to Craig. He will remember me and my preggo wife vividly as we’ve talked on the phone a lot since the transaction. Wait, why am I even saying all of this?

Just got sucked in.... *shaking head lol

Anyway, as to my original post for everyone else who is interested in some level of rust control, I used Krown and have been really happy for the price. I do wonder sometimes if we could just heat up some used motor oil, pour it into a garden sprayer and spray underneath ourselves if that would help. I noticed on my tour bus that there is never any rust around the steel engine frame rails that are always caked in grease and oil but they do rust where there isn’t any caked on.

I’ve heard (no personal experience) that the old rubberized undercoating could actually trap moisture underneath and the rust somehow just continued under and eventually bubbled out. That would be a bummer if that were true. I love any new tech or old methods to keeping my vehicles in good shape while I own them and I utterly detest rust so I’m willing to spend some $$$ to try my best to prevent it. Oh btw, yes my truck was driven in Michigan:

And my favorite, my cruiser parked next to my tour bus:


Oops got sucked in again ;-)


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[rjdelp7]

Interesting reading. Traded in at Texas dealer? WTF? I noticed you detest rust. What is up the rust, on front bumper? The other side is hanging off. One picture, looks like no front bumper. You spend money on rustproofing, but drive around with damage? Most people would not. Have you had your Expedition , serviced by Krown? What did dealer give for the trade in?

 

[Muddy Bean]

That pink spot on the front corner in the one photo is a bad bondo job after I gently smacked a tree driving in the snow. It was a plastic bumper so no rust there. The bumper ended up being pulled off while I shopped around for an ARB armored bumper which I installed thereafter. One photo shows my tow bar folded up against the bumper too. I have to flat tow my trucks behind my bus all year so they all have had front tow systems installed. So you are seeing different iterations of factory bumper, factory bumper with tow bar, factory bumper removed, tow bar reinstalled with factory bumper removed. And here’s how it looked when I traded it in (Ford gave me $2500 for it). I know it’s crazy but 100 series Land Cruisers have value even at 300,000 miles. Mine was triple locked with factory electric rear and center diff locks and an aftermarket ARB airlocker I installed on the front diff.


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[Muddy Bean]

And yes I did have the Expedition serviced by Krown. Pictures of that are the very first post at the top of this thread...


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[rollinstone]

I live in the Seattle area. Have a '97 Explorer with 175,000...no rust. Also have a '14 Expy...no rust. That said, I would like to know if there's a rust spray service in our area...or what should I be searching for? Thanks!

 

[gixer2000]

I live in the Seattle area. Have a '97 Explorer with 175,000...no rust. Also have a '14 Expy...no rust. That said, I would like to know if there's a rust spray service in our area...or what should I be searching for? Thanks!

Head to www.Krown.com they have a service center locator

 

[Allen Miller]

One of the Canadian guys on the CRZ forum had an issue with Krown shorting his trunk latch button, which is the same type of switch used for the glass...

Taking it apart and cleaning it solved the issue though. Just maybe be careful if they treat your hatch.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Tomorrow I'm taking mine in to Ziebart for it's annual rust treatment, paint treatment, and leather treatment touch up.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Ziebart recoated all of the closed cavities and inside the doors and rocker panels. they recoated the sound proofing under the vehicle, washed and clayed the paint and applied the diamond gloss paint protection, and treated the leather seats and trim. It came out looking great. It was a nice treat on it's birthday. Today was the day it came off the assembly line. It's one year old.

 

[Muddy Bean]

Nice Andy, how much $$ does a yearly treatment like that set you back? The coating inside the the door panels is an oil right? And the actually undercoating is a rubberized type correct?


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[ExpeditionAndy]

It's normally $189 for what they did, but I bought a package from dealer for $999 that includes free treatment for 10 years so all I have to do is show up within the window (2 months before and after the purchase date) and have them do the inspection and touchup. The stuff they spray inside the doors, panels and rockers is a water repellent viscus liquid that becomes a waxy-like substance as the solvent evaporates. The sound deadening is like a rubberized undercoating but it isn't rubber It is not as heavy as a bed liner but similar to that. All of this comes with warranties for rust through. I felt like it was a good deal. It is also transferable to one person.

 

[rjdelp7]

Nice Andy, how much $$ does a yearly treatment like that set you back? The coating inside the the door panels is an oil right? And the actually undercoating is a rubberized type correct?


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"Pay me now, pay me later". In Buffalo, NY, rust proofing can vary between, $80 and $149. I pay cash and owner did it for $80. This year I am having a new shop, apply "Rust Stop", $120(cash). My Expedition spent the first 7 years in PA. They use sand, not salt. I started having rust proofing done, after it was 9 years old. In 2013, I had new rocker panels, running boards, new bumpers and lowers touched up. I had the black spray, done first. It flaked off, over time. I had Carwell 2 times and Rustkote a few times. It has has helped, but there is rust on much of under body. It is one the few(maybe only) rust free 2000 Expedition bodies, in the Buffalo area. If I ever purchase a new vehicle again, I am going to have truck bed liner sprayed on entire bottom( it is awesome stuff). The bottom line: if you plan on keeping a vehicle for 10 years, spend the money for rustproofing. If you trade it in every 5 years, don't waste your money.

 

[John Christopher]

Ziebart recoated all of the closed cavities and inside the doors and rocker panels. they recoated the sound proofing under the vehicle, washed and clayed the paint and applied the diamond gloss paint protection, and treated the leather seats and trim. It came out looking great. It was a nice treat on it's birthday. Today was the day it came off the assembly line. It's one year old.

Andy, when you are ready to sell that truck I'll bet there will be 100 people from the forum who want to buy it. You really take great care of that Expy.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

"Pay me now, pay me later". In Buffalo, NY, rust proofing can vary between, $80 and $149. I pay cash and owner did it for $80. This year I am having a new shop, apply "Rust Stop", $120(cash). My Expedition spent the first 7 years in PA. They use sand, not salt. I started having rust proofing done, after it was 9 years old. In 2013, I had new rocker panels, running boards, new bumpers and lowers touched up. I had the black spray, done first. It flaked off, over time. I had Carwell 2 times and Rustkote a few times. It has has helped, but there is rust on much of under body. It is one the few(maybe only) rust free 2000 Expedition bodies, in the Buffalo area. If I ever purchase a new vehicle again, I am going to have truck bed liner sprayed on entire bottom( it is awesome stuff). The bottom line: if you plan on keeping a vehicle for 10 years, spend the money for rustproofing. If you trade it in every 5 years, don't waste your money.

I plan to keep my truck for at least 10 years maybe longer. The way I drive it may only have 60 or 70 thousand miles on it by then. With no rust and great looking paint it might be worth some bucks for an outright sale or a trade in.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Andy, when you are ready to sell that truck I'll bet there will be 100 people from the forum who want to buy it. You really take great care of that Expy.

Thanks John! I always try to keep them looking like new.