Hellwig Rear Sway Bar Not Centered

[MHay]

Just installed the Hellwig rear sway bar on my ‘20 Max today along with new Moogs end links. I eyeballed the sway bar and got it mostly centered before torquing the U-plates. Took it for a short ride when I was done and now the sway bar is a bit off centered, about an inch or so toward the drivers side. Will this create any issues or is it normal to have some side to side float?

 

[Deadman]

Did you have the end links even and straight when you tightened them down?

 

[MHay]

Did you have the end links even and straight when you tightened them down?

I think so, but given how the end links rotate/pivot I don’t see how it would matter if they weren’t exactly even when I tightened those bolts? Looking for guidance because maybe I’m making a bad assumption here.

 

[MHay]

Here are some pics to show the misalignment.

 

[5280tunage]

From the looks of it, it might be okay. Couple thoughts. First, what if you rotate the bottom connector? That is, on your first picture, leave the top as is, but rotate the bottom 180 degrees so it's on the outside of the bar? Just eye balling it that might make it more straight up and down and do both sides. Not sure if you can rotate those, some of them you can, but not sure on the moogs. Maybe only adjustable ones can rotate (actually looking at your pictures i think they are rigid so you won't be able to do that), sorry.

Also, on thing I learned, try to wipe up all excess lubricant, any excess seems to really attract dirt which just gets inside and make them squeek.

 

[wakeboarder]

Just installed the Hellwig rear sway bar on my ‘20 Max today along with new Moogs end links. I eyeballed the sway bar and got it mostly centered before torquing the U-plates. Took it for a short ride when I was done and now the sway bar is a bit off centered, about an inch or so toward the drivers side. Will this create any issues or is it normal to have some side to side float?

I wonder if the sway bar in not symmetrical. If you set the sway bar on a flat surface, does it wobble? You would also need to measure the angle and length of the outer bends.

 

[5280tunage]

On mine, as I used to do with my Jeeps all the time, I simply didn't tighten down the chassis mounts, left them pretty loose, and drove up and down my driveway a few times. Going over the curb will help the bar naturally settle in place on its own, assuming it's symmetrical. Then I cranked the chassis mounts down. My front one shifted probably 3/4". The rear not so much. Of course that meant a lot of the grease was exposed now, but it was still centered.

 

[MHay]

Couple thoughts. First, what if you rotate the bottom connector? That is, on your first picture, leave the top as is, but rotate the bottom 180 degrees so it's on the outside of the bar? Just eye balling it that might make it more straight up and down and do both sides. Not sure if you can rotate those, some of them you can, but not sure on the moogs. Maybe only adjustable ones can rotate (actually looking at your pictures i think they are rigid so you won't be able to do that), sorry.

Also, on thing I learned, try to wipe up all excess lubricant, any excess seems to really attract dirt which just gets inside and make them squeek.

The links aren’t adjustable, and thanks for the tip about the grease. I’ll clean up the excess once I’m finished messing with the alignment.

I wonder if the sway bar in not symmetrical. If you set the sway bar on a flat surface, does it wobble? You would also need to measure the angle and length of the outer bends.

I had the new bar lying flat next to the old after I removed the old one and I don’t recall noticing any wobble or anything that didn’t match the length/curvature of the old bar. However, I didn’t measure so there’s a chance it is off a bit.

On mine, as I used to do with my Jeeps all the time, I simply didn't tighten down the chassis mounts, left them pretty loose, and drove up and down my driveway a few times. Going over the curb will help the bar naturally settle in place on its own, assuming it's symmetrical. Then I cranked the chassis mounts down. My front one shifted probably 3/4". The rear not so much. Of course that meant a lot of the grease was exposed now, but it was still centered.

I think I’ll try this first as I won’t need to undo the whole bar.

 

[sjwelds]

I'd let it float, find its own home, and not worry about it. Won't affect anything

 

[MHay]

I'd let it float, find its own home, and not worry about it. Won't affect anything

Thanks, I’m going to take this approach as long as there aren’t any ill effects if it ends up slightly off center.

 

[tskrypek]

Where did you get your sway bar? How long did it take to get it after ordering?


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[MHay]

Where did you get your sway bar? How long did it take to get it after ordering?


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I ordered it from autoaccessoriesgarage.com on 10/15 and it arrived 12/15.

 

[tskrypek]

Your lucky it came so soon, they have been quoting 3 months. They have to make to order.
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[WALoeIII]

I ordered front and rear directly from Hellwig 12/8/20 and they arrived 2/4/21, boxes had a lot of tape on them, seems they've learned a bunch are poking out.

My rear also floats a little, even with 50 ft-lb of tension on the frame u-bolts I can still slide it side to side if I try hard. I wouldn't worry about it, ultimately its going to slide back and forth a little if you twist up the truck.

Nice improvement to handling, truck is much flatter when cornering.

 

[Nate2020KR]

I ordered both through Summit Racing the first of Oct. They arrived right before Christmas.

 

[Deadman]

I ordered mine from Hellwig directly, they need to make it to order, so no need to involve another vendor....

 

[Nate2020KR]

I ordered mine from Hellwig directly, they need to make it to order, so no need to involve another vendor....

I was going to order from them directly, but they charge $50 special order per bar. I called and they said they didn't sell directly to the public and would have to be purchased through a dealer. But their sir will let you order from them. Who knows?

 

[Deadman]

I was going to order from them directly, but they charge $50 special order per bar. I called and they said they didn't sell directly to the public and would have to be purchased through a dealer. But their sir will let you order from them. Who knows?

Ya know, I noticed that their website has changed in the last year or so. I'm wondering if they didn't change their policy on that. They gave me a 10% off code that I used and ordered it directly thru their website when I ordered. I got the 10% off because they ****** me around for monthssssss while they hid in their basements form the Plandemic.

 

[Squark]

I installed my rear bar this weekend and had the same issue. The bar was centered when I tightened it down but it shifted an inch or so while driving. The factory bar has ridges that keep it from moving, while the Hellwig one is smooth. I'm not going to worry about it since others are seeing the same thing.

 

[5280tunage]

And naturally it should find center on it's own anyways. Which may not be center chassis wise but things like weight distribution can affect them. They are designed to "float" a little.