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i hear you. the earlier model cayenne turbos hovered around the 4.8-5.4 second 0-60 times. I have no idea what year it was, but it was definitely not a new one. realistically it was probably a little of both!!! I know for fact i am in the low 5's. i wanted to get a performance meter for it to get a somewhat accurate 0-60 time, but will definitely not be doing so as we are trading the explorer in on the new Dishin' !!! which if COTUS is acurate will be in 6 days