BP73
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That looks perfect!
Do you think you’d have rubbing issues if you didn’t install the Bilsteins?
I’m looking to purchase some method 20” wheels and want to run that same size tire in the Toyo ATiii
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Do you think you’d have rubbing issues if you didn’t install the Bilsteins?
I’m looking to purchase some method 20” wheels and want to run that same size tire in the Toyo ATiii
BK-2024MAX-XLT
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If anyone here has a Readylift 3/2 with 275 65 R20’s (or similar) can you give me your new overall vehicle height measured to top of roof rails? (Not including crossbars height). Thanks in advance and really appreciate the help! Gotta make sure this setup will fit in my garage.
It’s only an inch larger in diameter than the stock tires and width is the same as stock, so I highly doubt it
Expy Gator
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If anybody is looking for a Readylift 3" front lift I listed a brand new set in the For Sale section. I have a Timberline and used the rear 2" lift but did not use the 3" front.
NyackRob79
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Adding mine to the list here. This thread was instrumental in helping me make my wheel and lift choices.
2018 Expedition MAX 4x4 Platinum. My lift kit was limited to those products that are compatible with the CCD suspension on the Platinum trim. Overall wheel diameter is 34.6". There was some rubbing (especially with my WeatherTech mud flaps) at full turn to lock. I've done some trimming where needed. The rest of the wheel liner in the front was pulled back using zip ties. No rubbing after the work.
I tried using ForScan to set the new wheel diameter (so that the speedometer would read accurately). However, ForScan rejected my new wheel diameter values. As such, there is some speedo error. When speedo reads 75mph, you're actually driving 80mph.
Aside from that, because the wheels are OEMs from a F-150 (which has a solid rear axle), the rear wheel caps will not fit on the wheels. You'll have to either leave the rear wheel caps off, or use a a creative solution such as a sawzall with a metal blade to cut the protruding axle studs (which is what I've done).
Wheels: Ford F-150 Tremor OEMs (ordered from Jegs with a coupon):
Tires: BF Goodrich 295/70R-18 ALL-TERRAIN T/A KO3
Lift Kit: ReadyLift 3/2 Lift Kit for CCD (SKU: 69-2831)
Additional Rear Suspension Components: Extended lower trailing arms, tie rods, and upper control arms (ensuring proper centering of the rear wheels and alignment) all from Rough Country:
Part#s:
94003136 (x2)
40231 BAG1
94003138
94003135 (x2)
94003137 (x2)
RE19719 (x2)
These have to be ordered by phone from Rough Country directly. They won't show-up on their website.
2018 Expedition MAX 4x4 Platinum. My lift kit was limited to those products that are compatible with the CCD suspension on the Platinum trim. Overall wheel diameter is 34.6". There was some rubbing (especially with my WeatherTech mud flaps) at full turn to lock. I've done some trimming where needed. The rest of the wheel liner in the front was pulled back using zip ties. No rubbing after the work.
I tried using ForScan to set the new wheel diameter (so that the speedometer would read accurately). However, ForScan rejected my new wheel diameter values. As such, there is some speedo error. When speedo reads 75mph, you're actually driving 80mph.
Aside from that, because the wheels are OEMs from a F-150 (which has a solid rear axle), the rear wheel caps will not fit on the wheels. You'll have to either leave the rear wheel caps off, or use a a creative solution such as a sawzall with a metal blade to cut the protruding axle studs (which is what I've done).
Wheels: Ford F-150 Tremor OEMs (ordered from Jegs with a coupon):
Tires: BF Goodrich 295/70R-18 ALL-TERRAIN T/A KO3
Lift Kit: ReadyLift 3/2 Lift Kit for CCD (SKU: 69-2831)
Additional Rear Suspension Components: Extended lower trailing arms, tie rods, and upper control arms (ensuring proper centering of the rear wheels and alignment) all from Rough Country:
Part#s:
94003136 (x2)
40231 BAG1
94003138
94003135 (x2)
94003137 (x2)
RE19719 (x2)
These have to be ordered by phone from Rough Country directly. They won't show-up on their website.
HILLY
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Nice!
What’s the details on the roof rack? I like the side mount you’ve got going on over the 1/4 glass.
What’s the details on the roof rack? I like the side mount you’ve got going on over the 1/4 glass.
GixxerJasen
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Nice to see another Expedition with the Tremor wheels. They look so good on our vehicles, and they are OEM. And the axle thing is such a non issue too, glad to see you made the jump.
NyackRob79
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Thule WingBar Edge crossbars (x2) with Thule Edge Raised Rail Foot Pack (4pk)
Thule Caprock Crossbar Kit
Thule CapRock XL Roof Platform
Thule OutLand Awning - THU-320011
2x Pelican BX-140 cases w/Pelican RFMT2 Cargo Case Roof Mount Kit (Black)
1x Pelican BX-90 case
2x Roof Rack Side Accessory Panel - VRK-SAP-PC - https://www.victory4x4.com/product/VRK-SAP.html
I've got 2x Rotopax 2gal fuel tanks on one side, and recovery boards/shovel on the other. They hold up pretty well, as they use a suction cup to the window in addition to being bolted to the roof rack for support.
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NyackRob79
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Oh yeah. I saw them on a parked F-150 Tremor and thought to myself, man, those look so right. Ordered a set the next day.
HILLY
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OK, now that makes sense! I had a Victory4x4 rack on my previous 5th gen 4Runner. That's cool how you were able to adapt that!
NyackRob79
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Took me about an hour at Lowe's to find the right nuts and bolts, but if you have the patience, it's fairly easy.
HILLY
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Thanks for that info!
Been eyeing up the Kingdom Overlanding rack and might try this out as well.
BK-2024MAX-XLT
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285 60 r20’s - w/ 3/2 ReadyLift -
Any thoughts compared to 285 65 r20’s that look like they might be over stuffed if you hit a rut? Any input appreciated.
Any thoughts compared to 285 65 r20’s that look like they might be over stuffed if you hit a rut? Any input appreciated.
FatherDH
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Just installed the RL 3/2 with CCD and some 35" Ridge Grapplers on 18" Roush wheels with a +15 offset. Some trimming was required of the running boards and wheel well in order to not rub. Not gonna lie, I struggled on this install!
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pnwjetsled
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@FatherDH did you go with 11.50 or 12.50s?
FatherDH
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12.50's... next time I'll do 11.5 or 295/70R18's. These are quite tight, even after trimming I barely have clearance.
pnwjetsled
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I went with 35x11.50 and the fit really well.
HILLY
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Finally got around to completing the lift.
Front: Bilstein 5100 F-150 4x4 bottom ring (24-248129).
Rear: Bilstein 5100 Expedition shock top ring (24-285063).
UCA: JBA (https://jbaoffroad.com/jba-upper-control-arms-for-ford-f150-2004-2020)
LCA: SPC HD Raptor Alignment Cams 86252 x2
Wheels: Icon Vehicle Dynamics Compression 17x8.5 ET +6.
Tires: Goodyear Wrangler Territory 315/70R17 (C Load / 34.4"OD x 12.7" / 52 lbs)
Does it poke? Yes a little.
Does it rub? Surprisingly no. Have caster alignment pushed a bit forward. I might be able to reinstall the WeatherTech mud flaps that I took off just before install - *Edit* - They still won't work with the sweep.
The UCAs are just touching the springs at full droop. The CV boot will also slightly rub LCA at full droop as well. Given collapsed and extended lengths of these shocks vs the 2wd F-150 version or Expedition shocks, I would possibly explore the 2wd F150 version if there is a next time as to not over extend the components. Main thing is the half-shaft CV doesn't have any bind (been there before in past builds).
Rear end still looks good to me. The rear axle pull towards the front is actually not that bad (to me). So I'll also probably forgo the RC arm kit. A more aggressive lift (2" and more) with either spacers alone or combo'd will pull it to where I'd need that.
Rides very good. Not harsh or floaty. As comfortable (to me) as the stock setup with more planted feeling. I already have the HD tow pkg which I can say have different springs and struts than non, so maybe that already set the bar of what to expect. I love the look and stance that I got from this setup with the way the tires fill the wheel wells. Truck looks like it now lives up to it's name.
Front: Bilstein 5100 F-150 4x4 bottom ring (24-248129).
Rear: Bilstein 5100 Expedition shock top ring (24-285063).
UCA: JBA (https://jbaoffroad.com/jba-upper-control-arms-for-ford-f150-2004-2020)
LCA: SPC HD Raptor Alignment Cams 86252 x2
Wheels: Icon Vehicle Dynamics Compression 17x8.5 ET +6.
Tires: Goodyear Wrangler Territory 315/70R17 (C Load / 34.4"OD x 12.7" / 52 lbs)
Does it poke? Yes a little.
Does it rub? Surprisingly no. Have caster alignment pushed a bit forward. I might be able to reinstall the WeatherTech mud flaps that I took off just before install - *Edit* - They still won't work with the sweep.
The UCAs are just touching the springs at full droop. The CV boot will also slightly rub LCA at full droop as well. Given collapsed and extended lengths of these shocks vs the 2wd F-150 version or Expedition shocks, I would possibly explore the 2wd F150 version if there is a next time as to not over extend the components. Main thing is the half-shaft CV doesn't have any bind (been there before in past builds).
Rear end still looks good to me. The rear axle pull towards the front is actually not that bad (to me). So I'll also probably forgo the RC arm kit. A more aggressive lift (2" and more) with either spacers alone or combo'd will pull it to where I'd need that.
Rides very good. Not harsh or floaty. As comfortable (to me) as the stock setup with more planted feeling. I already have the HD tow pkg which I can say have different springs and struts than non, so maybe that already set the bar of what to expect. I love the look and stance that I got from this setup with the way the tires fill the wheel wells. Truck looks like it now lives up to it's name.
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good afternoon everybody. Im glad i decided to search up a forum for my wifes 2019 max 4wd. looks like a bunch of great info in here.
that being said, i just ordered the 5100s for all 4 corners, but after seeing a bunch of these posts, wondering if i should have ordered the f150 fronts? what is your take on it? how much of a difference is the 150 front vs expedition front?
that being said, i just ordered the 5100s for all 4 corners, but after seeing a bunch of these posts, wondering if i should have ordered the f150 fronts? what is your take on it? how much of a difference is the 150 front vs expedition front?
HILLY
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This is the data on the various 5100 shocks that will work. Using the F150 4x4 setup gives you a higher starting point with the lift since ring position 0 will yield about 2" of lift. The Expedition lift will require the top of 3 rings to achieve about 1.6" of lift.
The downside to the F150 4x4 setup as I noted in my post and not really talked about is that it's a hair over 1.5" longer than the Expedition at extended length. This is noticeable when the wheels are off the ground and the UCA will touch the spring and the the CV boot is also rubbing on the LCA.
If I were to do it again I'd research more and explore the 4x2 shock option as the extended length is only shy of .5" longer and collapsed is arguably the same. This will keep the suspension geometry closer inline to it's design scope.
Front shock specs:
The downside to the F150 4x4 setup as I noted in my post and not really talked about is that it's a hair over 1.5" longer than the Expedition at extended length. This is noticeable when the wheels are off the ground and the UCA will touch the spring and the the CV boot is also rubbing on the LCA.
If I were to do it again I'd research more and explore the 4x2 shock option as the extended length is only shy of .5" longer and collapsed is arguably the same. This will keep the suspension geometry closer inline to it's design scope.
Front shock specs:
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