Newbie here, Dead Ins Cluster, Radio, Windows

[mbs xk8]

I'm learning that motto the hard way.

Lol

I emailed the circuit board for the fuse box. Looks strange on the right side

 

[Bedrck47]

And if you watched the X Files when it was on - live by the motto "trust no one"...

yes but when it comes to expy's and electrical YOU are trusted IMHO

 

[stamp11127]

MBS what area are you questioning? The right side in the pic is fuzzy but I didn't see a burned spot on the board. Are you able to take a pic of the other side of the board?

We may be at the point of isolating portions of the circuit by removing connector pins/wires from the plugs. You'll need a special tool to do so, search for: Lisle 57780 Terminal Tool for Ford

or

http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-57780-Terminal-Tool-Ford/dp/B007ZOMMT6

Let me know if you want to go down this road.

 

[mbs xk8]

Well now I can't move the truck. I put the fuse box back in and the engine won't turn over. It'll crank but it won't run.

 

[mbs xk8]

On the circuit board, about 2/3 of the way down theres what looks to be a blur circle. Next to that on the wire it looks blue and smudgy.

 

[stamp11127]

Make sure all the plugs are seated correctly.
Check fuses
Is the theft light flashing fast?

This is a link to a burned pc board:

http://electronics.stackexchange.co...ircuit-board-too-much-to-be-fixed-pics-inside

Second pic slightly above center

 

[mbs xk8]

Fuses are good, seated correctly, no theft light blinking

Dang thing won't start.

 

[stamp11127]

Sent you an email with pwr dist pdf.

Do you have the electronic park brake?

 

[mbs xk8]

I think its the mechanical brake (cables) but it doesn't work. The truck started rolling away on me... lo

 

[stamp11127]

I'm going to assume that you have put the fuse box back together with the proper rated fuses in the correct locations.

The cluster and PATS transceiver need to be connected before the truck will start. The PATS transceiver is located around the key cylinder. There may have been a little electronic piece around the transceiver that was used for the remote start. If it wasn't there initially don't worry about it.

Once the cluster and pats are connected, turn the key to run and see if the cluster goes through the self check.

 

[mbs xk8]

Everything is reassembled and connected. All fuses are correct. The instrument cluster lights up and the gauges swept back on forth.

Turned the key, held my breath as the engine cranked... but it
didn't turn over. When I removed the key, fuse 21 sparked and blew just as before.

 

[Bedrck47]

check fuse #28 and #34 if they are good try to restart

you could also get a can of starting fluid and spray into the intake while having someone turn the key to the start position this will at least test if you are getting spark to the plugs

 

[Bedrck47]

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[stamp11127]

Are you using a circuit breaker in place of fuse 21? If not you may want to get one, I have a feeling we may be a while in finding the problem.

Do you have a fuel pressure gauge that you can connect to the fuel rail? We need to find out what part of the engine system has dropped out. You have either lost fuel pressure or the injector control (pcm/pats). Each of the two are electrical. Getting the fuel pressure is the easiest if you have the tools. Using the starting fluid is also another test but can be dangerous if you haven't used it before. You don't want to get spray happy.

We are at the point of isolating circuits since the only connection between fuse 21 and the ignition switch is a feed to the instrument cluster for the key in ignition lock. Problem is this circuit is protected by a different fuse - 102. If there is a problem on that circuit it should pop 102.

You may need to make a few more jumper wires to test the ign sw circuit. I'll get back to you on that later after work.

According to the service manual your parking brake is electric and just so happens to be on fuse 21.
Sending you more pdf's.

 

[mbs xk8]

The fuses are all good.

I bought another fuse box and gave it a try.the Espy started and everything worked (gauges, radio, power windows)

I was very excited until i turned off the car and fuse 21 blew again. Now no gauges, radio, or windows again.

But she did start and run. But I smelled something electrical, burning. I felt around the fuse box and noticed the middle relay on the back side if the circuit board was really hot. Its the middle of the 5 relays you can't remove.

 

[stamp11127]

Ford doesn't indicate what those relays control since they aren't replaceable. Your only option would be to follow the traces on your old fuse box to see which connector and pins they go to. Once we know that we can look at the diagrams and try to find it on them. If your lucky it will be on the circuit for fuse 21.

Will need the connector number and pin number.

 

[Bedrck47]

the middle relay is the fuel pump relay

 

[stamp11127]

Was the fusebox a new one or a used one?

 

[mbs xk8]

This was a used fuse box that looks new. Its in really good shape.

As I said , the SUV starts now but fuse 21 sparks and blows when removing the key. The emergency brake doesn't work either.

 

[Bedrck47]

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