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[aggiegrad05]

-the drive side door panel arm rest creaks and cracks like a mother anytjme you drive over bumps or lean your knee against it

The drivers side door panel is a known issue on here and several fixes have been suggested. As fast as I can tell it’s limited to the Limited trim. You may take a look at some other threads to get an idea of how to address it.

 

[Fozzy]

One other complaint but I know is just the way the vehicle is is that man this vehicle is a rough ride at low speeds on back bumpy roads... I've had cars lowered on cheapy coilovers that were about the same ride quality..

Try sport mode out. It firms up the shocks and puts it in 4x4 auto. Makes a huge difference off roading.


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[MonkeyBrains]

Glad my armrest on my limited doesn’t creak and rattle. Have no issues with the panoramic moon roof or anything else. Only thing Iv’e had was the goofy side mirror clicking/popping when changing presets and it seems to be fixed after I took it in and they reprogrammed the mirror module.

The CCD suspension seems to help immensely for bumpy roads compared to the XLTs I’ve driven. But sport mode does indeed help for dirt road/ off road. The Max especially has a serious case of chunky-butt and the ride off-road isn’t great, especially in the rear. Although I think that’s a big part of the trade-off for how nice it rides most everywhere else. Not sure what can be done there, save for Ford going with a fully dynamic and adjustable suspension setup. Some aftermarket suspension upgrades are showing up and I would definitely be interested if I had a non-CCD setup. For now I’m going to wait and see what else comes along. That said, it rides nicer than any Escalade, Yukon XL, etc.. I’ve ever driven. I plan to keep it for a while.

 

[JExpedition07]

The drivers side door panel is a known issue on here and several fixes have been suggested. As fast as I can tell it’s limited to the Limited trim. You may take a look at some other threads to get an idea of how to address it.

It’s limited to the limited...teehee

 

[bill_b]

Thanks for the suggestions all, I'll give these things a shot

I think the other thing people have to understand (which I do) who are coming from vehicles like I did in a highlander and 4runner is that those vehicles are near the end of their body style lifecycle... most gen4 expeditions on the road right now are the first model year for this body style. It's going to take time to work out the bugs lol. The early 3rd gen Tacomas weren't without their problems either!

 

[Pop302]

Now how about Yugoslavian vehicles...

 

[Artie]

It's going to take time to work out the bugs lol.

While I 100% agree with this I still read about these bugs popping up on this forum and hope I get lucky and don’t have to deal with one... actually I had the haunted mirror issue so maybe that will be my only bug.

 

[dlcorbett]

There doesnt seem to be many issues on the navi forums, however, when they do pop up(the revel system wht noise, the 30 way seat, engine rattle, phantom tailgate and lights, leds lights goin out) the owners pretty much drop the truck for somethin else.

 

[Randy Schmidt]

the owners pretty much drop the truck for somethin else.

@Artie Say it isn't true...

 

[Artie]

@Artie Say it isn't true...

It would take a massive issue for me to walk away. The worst issue I’ve had to date is one of the lumbar sections on the 30 way seat has a slight squeak in it and they haven’t figured out a fix yet and replacing that section didn’t fix it. It’s a mild annoyance that’s drowned out by the vehicles warm embrace of luxury....it’s like a amours hug from a beautiful woman. . . . What was I talking about again?

oh yeah, walking away. Yeah, that sounds like burning cash and I like to avoid that regardless of what my wife says about any of my hobbies. Besides, there isn’t much out there that meets our needs like this Navigator does. I wish it had a little more off road prowess but it meets our needs and then some. My wife is interested in the Bronco for a more off road flavor vehicle so she may get one of those if we like it.

 

[carymccarr]

Besides, there isn’t much out there that meets our needs like this Navigator does. I wish it had a little more off road prowess but it meets our needs and then some.

2021 GMC’s will be announced in 4 weeks....stay tuned.

Unless you’re unable to shop other brands it should be really interesting to see what they do. I think they held off/delayed as long as they did because the level of refinement the navigator had threw them for a loop.

 

[Artie]

2021 GMC’s will be announced in 4 weeks....stay tuned.

Unless you’re unable to shop other brands it should be really interesting to see what they do. I think they held off/delayed as long as they did because the level of refinement the navigator had threw them for a loop.

We have a 2018 Nav now, no way I’m leaving the party this soon.

 

[carymccarr]

We have a 2018 Nav now, no way I’m leaving the party this soon.

Agreed. Gotta at least wait for second model year before you buy anyway so you’ve got 18 months!

 

[Jace]

2021 GMC’s will be announced in 4 weeks....stay tuned.

Unless you’re unable to shop other brands it should be really interesting to see what they do. I think they held off/delayed as long as they did because the level of refinement the navigator had threw them for a loop.

From what I can see the unveiling will be Dec 10th, and they won't be available for purchase till some time in 2020. I'd expect to see a mid year release at the earliest so that the 20s can get off the lots... Who knows tho! If they look anything like the current Chevy truck line up, they are going to be quite controversial.

 

[carymccarr]

From what I can see the unveiling will be Dec 10th, and they won't be available for purchase till some time in 2020. I'd expect to see a mid year release at the earliest so that the 20s can get off the lots... Who knows tho! If they look anything like the current Chevy truck line up, they are going to be quite controversial.

No doubt about that. The new ford exteriors are carbon copies of the outgoing GMC’s but IMO, that’s a good thing. If they go full freightrain front end like the gmc trucks, they are going to scare the soccer moms that buy these things.

Something happened in the GM redesign. They either struggled to figure out the IRS or they didn’t like the final look of the suvs or they had to pause to add ‘more’ to them to better compete with the fords.

 

[dlcorbett]

No doubt about that. The new ford exteriors are carbon copies of the outgoing GMC’s but IMO, that’s a good thing. If they go full freightrain front end like the gmc trucks, they are going to scare the soccer moms that buy these things.

Something happened in the GM redesign. They either struggled to figure out the IRS or they didn’t like the final look of the suvs or they had to pause to add ‘more’ to them to better compete with the fords.

I believe the horrible reaction to the silverado at launch made them rethink some things with the suvs.

 

[Artie]

I believe the horrible reaction to the silverado at launch made them rethink some things with the suvs.

That thing is ugly.

 

[carymccarr]

First long distance drive with our 3 month old expedition max platinum. First the horn stops working, then the ford synch 3 Bluetooth cuts in and out and now the back latch on the trunk rattles non stop. 9000 miles on it.

Interesting nugget I heard yesterday...longish story but..,

I’m undecided on my next suv. I am not really excited by any of them so I’m probably going to go used and drive something for a year or two until I really know what I want. I very much like the navigator but the wife hates the back of it (I tend to agree). Anyway, I have a friend that runs a high end auto acquisition/consignment company (clients have him acquire high end cars for them). He is monitoring auctions for me to get a 2019 under 10k miles suv. Navigator and a few others are on his watch list.

He called me yesterday to update me and said that for whatever reason the majority of Lincoln’s he’s seeing are either 2.5 condition or below (mostly due to major cigarette smoke) or are buybacks/assisted trades.

Not sure why so many smoker vehicles but as far as buybacks go I’m chalking it up to first year (early second year) build bugs. Anyway, I thought it was interesting.