What’s with these dealers?

[1955moose]

We here get a little off track from just the Expedition. Life is boring if you do the same thing day in day out. 07 expedition and his family are just sharing and venting his frustration with the Chevy dealer he had to resort too since Ford doesn't offer the van he needs/wants I dont know about you guys, but reading about some 4 th gens problem with some GPS problem, or his/ her video in the seat back not doing something for the kiddies, is just flat out boring. 50 percent of the posts nowadays are just that. So if once a week we get a post a little off topic, I applaud it. It's what's kept me here, and participating in the forum. All the other forums, are boring, I lose interest within a couple of days. Id like to see more off topic ones, they make for good reading.

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[jimz]

This is not just Expedition but it does include when buying one. Dealerships will manipulate their money in a method to confuse the buyer and keep their profits high. It is best to do your homework, know what you will pay, find your own financing and be prepared to walk if they are not willing to deal.

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[1955moose]

It's s shame that dealers these days are so manipulative. I don't know why their can't be a fair price, without having to go through the games. Their was a time in my parents day that customer's enjoyed buying from the dealer, and looked forward to a new car purchase. Their should be a regulated price that's not all over the map, and requires a course in conniving to buy a car. Well we can dream at least.

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[JExpedition07]

Moose there are no haggle dealers, but you aren’t getting the best deal there. I enjoy that we can negotiate price, Sure it can be a pain but just walk away. Where there is negotiation yes some get screwed, but some also make out well if the timing is right and can make it happen. If there was a set price no one would get screwed then again no one would make out. Our Ford dealer ended up getting a 2017 Chevrolet Express 3500 in with the 6.0L V8 with 19k miles still in warranty. He purchased that today and got it dirt cheap, nicely equipped with chrome package etc. His buddy who is a plumber always runs old vans with 200k plus and they go a long ways for him, his current express has the little V8 and doesn’t have enough power to pull the excavator, he was impressed with pulling power with the 5.4L/ 5 Speed with 4.10 gears in the 08’ E-350. Long story short my dad agreed to sell the E-350 to his buddy cheap rather than trade it in.

At the end of the day it’s a work truck, and cheapest initial with lowest overall maintenance wins out, so this is the route he went. Doesn’t have to be loaded, the van is simply a workhorse. Now his primary vehicle is a loaded up Lariat F-250 6.2L, that trucks got everything. He said the Chevy feels strong and likes it, but he still likes the Ford better and would have bought another new Econoline had they been available. We went over the E-Series cutaway but he’s getting older and doesn’t want to carry more he wants to carry less these days. Which I get it, job site delivery.

 

[1955moose]

Glad he got a nice van. We have a pub here in San Francisco that has a saying out front, we cheat tourists and drunks. Dealers should put a similar sign in their new car showroom, we cheat those that can't walk away! My older brother years back went into Serramonte Ford for outside mirror for his Mercury Monarch, and came home with a new Thunderbird.

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