Whiskey Tango Foxtrot "Features" Thread

[AAOO]

But if you are in reverse and backing up, open your door and it will slam itself back into park.


Are we certain of that? Any volunteers to test this? Perhaps someone located real close to a Ford dealer.

Yes this is a certified and I have tried it multiple times.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...sists-drivers-reduces-rollaway-potential.html

Return to Park technology is designed to automatically shift the car into park when any of the following conditions* occur:

• You turn the vehicle off
• You open the driver’s door with your safety belt unlatched and the vehicle stationary
• Your safety belt is unlatched with the driver’s door open and the vehicle stationary

Key words: safety belt is unlatched

The technology is designed not to operate if it detects a belted driver opens the door with the car moving to free a stuck coattail, for example, or if a driver happens to be inching into a parking space and wishes to see the lane markers.

 

[Deadman]

But if you are in reverse and backing up, open your door and it will slam itself back into park.


Are we certain of that? Any volunteers to test this? Perhaps someone located real close to a Ford dealer.

I don't wear a seatbelt, I'd rather fall out. lol jk. Kinda impossible to have a seatbelt on while you look behind you thru an open door.
I hate all this electronic BS just like you. I call all these new features "My Babysitter". My wife laughs at me as I swear at my babysitter stopping me from doing the things I've always done in previous non babysitter cars!

 

[Dillon Cawthon]

Yes this is a certified and I have tried it multiple times.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...sists-drivers-reduces-rollaway-potential.html

Return to Park technology is designed to automatically shift the car into park when any of the following conditions* occur:

• You turn the vehicle off
• You open the driver’s door with your safety belt unlatched and the vehicle stationary
• Your safety belt is unlatched with the driver’s door open and the vehicle stationary

Key words: safety belt is unlatched

The technology is designed not to operate if it detects a belted driver opens the door with the car moving to free a stuck coattail, for example, or if a driver happens to be inching into a parking space and wishes to see the lane markers.

It also says right there "and the vehicle stationary."

So just based off that it shouldn't do it while you are moving.

 

[AAOO]

See page 188 of the Expedition manual. Doesn't say much other than what I found from the Fusion link.

http://www.fordservicecontent.com/F...-Owners-Manual-version-1_om_EN-US_08_2017.pdf

 

[sjwelds]

I don't wear a seatbelt, I'd rather fall out. lol jk.

Ha! Now your username makes even more sense! Lol

 

[byathread]

Key words: safety belt is unlatched

Nice one...
Just tested it and it's as advertised/documented in the transmission section of our manuals, for what I'm willing to subject my trans to. My 2019 manual stated "and the vehicle stopped".


I'm still not convinced based on what folks have said here and will try for sure on a rental/loaner if that opportunity presents itself.

I'd like/prefer a definite "and" in the logic if vehicle speed is over 0 mph and you decide you didn't want to have the belt on, etc. for transmission preservation purposes. But, for now, I'll have to buckle the belt behind me if that zombie apocalypse ever happens, just for good measure/to be sure... [emoji23]

I'll also just start from park being unbuckled with door already open and hope I never open the door at speed in the odd event I didn't buckle up!

 

[Bill Schell]

So if I'm getting this correct, the auto return to park does not activate if there is a driver seated with seat belt attached? So feel free to open/close the door at speed to free up that raincoat, or while backing down a boat ramp?

 

[byathread]

So says the manual...

I'm gong to bet there is no speed component to it with seatbelt off and this will happen, though:

I popped my door open at probably 15mph one time to test the fake engine noises and the trans slammed into park and tried to shear that little park pin right off........tick tick tick tick tick tick

Anyone want to test it on a 2019?

 

[Bill Schell]

So says the manual...

I'm gong to bet there is no speed component to it with seatbelt off and this will happen, though:

Anyone want to test it on a 2019?

@Deadman did you have your seat belt on when this happened?

 

[AAOO]

byathread

Good news for the zombie apocalypse! I was driving home from dinner tonight (5-10 min drive) and when I got to my neighborhood I took off my seat belt. I noticed the little red icon on the dash for no seat belt did not come on and there were no bells going off. I said **** it and opened the door at about 15-20 mph...

NO SLAM TO PARK! All that happened was a yellow warning box on the gauge cluster popped up.

You are free to bail out and crash your expedition into something after buckling your seat belt for a while and the vehicle will not slam into park.

 

[Adieu]

Next one: 3rd row recline always active. Isn't this a car seat safety issue? I'm sure there is a fuse you could pull.

Recline? Or fold?

I don't wear a seatbelt, I'd rather fall out. lol jk. Kinda impossible to have a seatbelt on while you look behind you thru an open door.
I hate all this electronic BS just like you. I call all these new features "My Babysitter". My wife laughs at me as I swear at my babysitter stopping me from doing the things I've always done in previous non babysitter cars!

I just buckle my belts behind me and throw the shoulder part on

In sufficiently large vehicles (not subcompacts where you're wedged up tight against a bunch of crap) that gets the safety job done without the aggravation of the lap belt

 

[byathread]

byathread

Good news for the zombie apocalypse! I was driving home from dinner tonight (5-10 min drive) and when I got to my neighborhood I took off my seat belt. I noticed the little red icon on the dash for no seat belt did not come on and there were no bells going off. I said **** it and opened the door at about 15-20 mph...

NO SLAM TO PARK! All that happened was a yellow warning box on the gauge cluster popped up.

You are free to bail out and crash your expedition into something after buckling your seat belt for a while and the vehicle will not slam into park.

I think you and I would get along just fine... Had the opportunity presented itself and was just me in the car, I was going to do the same at next chance

 

[byathread]

Recline? Or fold?

Recline only. In looking at the list of fuses, I don't see a separate one to disable 3rd row recline buttons. Probably all part of the power fold...

 

[Adieu]

Recline only. In looking at the list of fuses, I don't see a separate one to disable 3rd row recline buttons. Probably all part of the power fold...

And it'll probably be like a 40A motor, so you'd need a relay harness even to splice in an off switch that disconnects the buttons for if you put your kids back there....

 

[Deadman]

@Deadman did you have your seat belt on when this happened?

I don't remember, but I highly doubt it!

 

[rjdelp7]

It is a feature put on because of 'knob' gear selector. There is no shifter, that can be visually seen to be in park. In my opinion, a case of old is better than new.

 

[Tom Aldridge]

At the very least, FoMoCo could provide one of those many step procedures to disable this type of feature, like the Seat Minder disable procedure in the Gen2/Gen3 Expy. You gotta REALLY want to do it so can't be said it was done unknowingly.

 

[duneslider]

At the very least, FoMoCo could provide one of those many step procedures to disable this type of feature, like the Seat Minder disable procedure in the Gen2/Gen3 Expy. You gotta REALLY want to do it so can't be said it was done unknowingly.

If only it was that easy. Several people have been run over and killed by their Grand Cherokee's because of a lack of this feature. It just takes one of those people to get the manufacturers to put in the feature to save us from ourselves.

 

[Fozzy]

Any of you had this happen. I hate the auto start but did not have it disabled. I parked on a incline. And when the engine turned of I just exited the truck. Normally it would put it in park for me. If you manually put it in park the engine starts and you have to turn it off again. When I got back in a yellow box appeared that said something like. Unable to put transmission in park. Parking brake is on. Sure enough the parking brake was on. So my guess is the incline wouldn’t let the parking pal engage and the truck applied the parking brake. Pretty cool IMO. I have seen a Jeep Grand Cherokee tear across a parking lot. Run through our construction zone and hit a building. Lady said she left it running because it was cold outside and she would only be gone one second.


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[Deadman]

It throws the parking brake on if you slide it into park before coming to a complete stop also. Its great in theory, but its also just another thing to go wrong in the future. I'll take my old foot engaged parking brake over this electronic stuff any day! Its the box we're in with people doing such stupid things now, we need to be protected from ourselves! Pretty sad!