2015/2016

[jeff kushner]

Loki,

I admire what you have done after seeing you personally stick with these guys all the way thru the upgrading of their trucks....all while not being paid a cent that I can see. I tend to be cautious as I've said and I appreciate the detail you provided. The comments I had found were from various models and the single radio issue was truly an outlier and not seen anywhere else.

I will probably leave mine as it is but that in no way suggests that others shouldn't go ahead and upgrade theirs if they choose. They certainly have a great "support system" in you!

jeff

 

[LokiWolf]

So a few things, and Andy touched on a few of those.

Loki,

I admire what you have done after seeing you personally stick with these guys all the way thru the upgrading of their trucks....all while not being paid a cent that I can see. I tend to be cautious as I've said and I appreciate the detail you provided. The comments I had found were from various models and the single radio issue was truly an outlier and not seen anywhere else.

I will probably leave mine as it is but that in no way suggests that others shouldn't go ahead and upgrade theirs if they choose. They certainly have a great "support system" in you!

jeff

Thanks, I appreciate the words! It is why these forums are great. We have the chance to help each other.

 

[mdntblu]

The only reason I upgraded mine was to get Sync 3 CarPlay for my phone. That made it so nice on our road trip this past weekend. Without that we would constantly be looking at our phones instead of having everything on the screen for playing Spotify or Apple Maps. We navigated from Calif to Arizona and all over Phoenix metro for 3 days with no issues. All buttons worked correctly, the system is very snappy and works well. I love when phone is plugged in via the cable you can press the steering wheel voice button and it activates siri very quickly and you can ask for directions in plain english to places you want and it works very well. Also being able to text using Siri is a big plus. Yes you can do Siri Eyes Free on the older firmware but the way CarPlay does it makes it much better. Thanks again Loki, because of your help my road trip was much more pleasant!!!

 

[LokiWolf]

The only reason I upgraded mine was to get Sync 3 CarPlay for my phone. That made it so nice on our road trip this past weekend. Without that we would constantly be looking at our phones instead of having everything on the screen for playing Spotify or Apple Maps. We navigated from Calif to Arizona and all over Phoenix metro for 3 days with no issues. All buttons worked correctly, the system is very snappy and works well. I love when phone is plugged in via the cable you can press the steering wheel voice button and it activates siri very quickly and you can ask for directions in plain english to places you want and it works very well. Also being able to text using Siri is a big plus. Yes you can do Siri Eyes Free on the older firmware but the way CarPlay does it makes it much better. Thanks again Loki, because of your help my road trip was much more pleasant!!!

You are very welcome Brad!

Yeah, Carplay skips Sync. Eyes Free has Sync in the Middle, therefore giving a bit of delay. Wife still prefers the built in Nav and functions over CarPlay, where as I use CarPlay more than the built in. The update to give the 3 quick change buttons in 10.3 of iOS was a great addition. Apple still has some work to do, but if they keep going in the direction they are I will be happy.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

You are very welcome Brad!

Yeah, Carplay skips Sync. Eyes Free has Sync in the Middle, therefore giving a bit of delay. Wife still prefers the built in Nav and functions over CarPlay, where as I use CarPlay more than the built in. The update to give the 3 quick change buttons in 10.3 of iOS was a great addition. Apple still has some work to do, but if they keep going in the direction they are I will be happy.

If i press and hold the speech button on the steering wheel, Siri comes up when I'm not not connected by cable and it seems pretty fast.

If you are referring to the three buttons on the left hand side of the screen in car play I had that with 2.0 unless you are saying they came after the update to 10.3 if that is the case, I didn't notice the lack of the three buttons before I upgraded.

We have an iPad Mini we use for navigation. We love the Waze app. It reminds me of the old CB days because you can get police reports and if there is a traffic accident and tie up, Waze will reroute you around the problem. I only wish that Waze would work on the dash screen but it isn't configured for Car Play.

 

[LokiWolf]

If i press and hold the speech button on the steering wheel, Siri comes up when I'm not not connected by cable and it seems pretty fast.

It is Pretty Fast, but there is less delay with CarPlay enabled. Even more when you just use Sync voice prompting.

If you are referring to the three buttons on the left hand side of the screen in car play I had that with 2.0 unless you are saying they came after the update to 10.3 if that is the case, I didn't notice the lack of the three buttons before I upgraded.

Has nothing to do with Sync Version. Before iOS 10.3, there was only one icon that would show up to the left and that was Maps. Now you get 3. Maps, Messaging, and the most recently used Audio App.

We have an iPad Mini we use for navigation. We love the Waze app. It reminds me of the old CB days because you can get police reports and if there is a traffic accident and tie up, Waze will reroute you around the problem. I only wish that Waze would work on the dash screen but it isn't configured for Car Play.

AGREE! I would like to be able to use Google Maps, and Waze. Apple is currently only allowing their map app at this time, even though Waze and Google have requested.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

It is Pretty Fast, but there is less delay with CarPlay enabled. Even more when you just use Sync voice prompting.


Has nothing to do with Sync Version. Before iOS 10.3, there was only one icon that would show up to the left and that was Maps. Now you get 3. Maps, Messaging, and the most recently used Audio App.


AGREE! I would like to be able to use Google Maps, and Waze. Apple is currently only allowing their map app at this time, even though Waze and Google have requested.

Thanks for the information Loki.

Now that you mention it, I vaguely remember seeing just the one icon right after I bought the truck.

I'll keep hoping that Waze gets approved before our trip in June.

 

[ElliottM]

Hello everyone.

I just picked up a 2016 Certified Pre-Owned Expy EL yesterday. We owned a 1st gen Expy years ago, several Explorers and an Excursion, too. The dealer is about 400 miles from home, so I had a nice long drive to see how much I liked the 2016. In a nutshell, I loved it - but I would like to see a few changes.

At any rate, I need to ask for help. One of my gripes is with the Sync 3 system. Upon getting home I did more digging, found this site, etc. The Sync system on our Expy is V1.0, so it needs updating. And I am not having luck updating the software myself. I configured the WiFi on the vehicle to access our network, but it doesn't update over WiFi. I followed the instructions on owner.ford.com for updating Sync using a USB stick, but it doesn't seem to recognize the stick. I have searched for tips to do the upgrade and have missed them on this site, if they are there.

Can anyone point me to tips for updating Sync 3 on a 2016?

 

[ElliottM]

OK, Technology 1, Elliott 0. First mistake - i pulled the USB stick out to verify it and discovered it was formatted NTFS. D'oh! So I reformatted it and am copying the Sync update to it now. The copying takes quite a few minutes, so in the interim I did the factory reset of the head unit. Once the Sync files are copied to the USB stick then I will try the update process again.

 

[ElliottM]

Posting the following in case it helps someone else.

I kept getting an error message that the installation failed, that it ran out of disk space or does not work with this version. This is after a Master Reset, formatting the 128GB SD card as exFAT, and using the Sync update from owners.ford.com. As a test, I tried the Nav version so kindly provided by LokiWolf next and that resulted in the same error message.

I went online in a chat with Ford's Sync support to see if they could help me, and she told me to use a 32GB USB stick. I had tried the 128GB stick because (a) I couldn't find one of 32GB and (b) more storage has to be better, right? Well, I found a 32GB stick, formatted it, copied the update to it and it worked. My Expy is now updated to V2.2.

So the moral of the story is:

• Use a 32GB USB stick for the upgrade, as the unit seems to have problems reading larger sizes.