Gotts Mod??

[LEOL]

well, my expy is already sucking more air than it should, so im bringing this topic up just because im curios and bored. LoL

So i was skimming posts/topics, and i "gotts" to thinking (see what i did there?!)... id like one of you math nerds to do a little dance and riddle me this.

The gotts mod increases air flow. well... given the location and design of the airbox wouldnt it be much simpler to just calculate the airflow increase that the gotts mod provides and caclulate how much cfm you would get from a specific diameter breech at the snorkel.... like say a 16th inch drill bit, to put an angled pinhole (or three) in the snorkel instead of hacking the thing to pieces??

plus then, if you dont like the flow results you can just melt some plastic, or glue to fill the holes... or hell, just duct tape the stupid thing back up at any given time.....

Id love to hear some input on flow calculations, or even some neigh-saying as to why my theory may or may not be practical.

 

[ExplorerTom]

When I did the Gotts mod, I didn't hack up anything except the piece of PVC pipe I bought at Home Depot. Done right, the mod is 100% reversible.

 

[LEOL]

Yeah, i know you can do it clean with PVC... what i was getting at, is not having to do that at all. (despite it being simple and not really time consumingin the first place). I just like to simplify things, and i also like to see discussion and collaberation on different ways to do things.

 

[Hawaiianbasshead]

http://www.instructables.com/id/Gotts-Air-Intake-Mod-Ford/?ALLSTEPS

Google ftw, 2012+ snorkel in itself is larger and flared and a direct swap..... and cheaper than pvc.. part numbers vary I think there were 2 for sure. It's on my list of things to get soon my 07 isn't yet on the streets anyway but I will be swapping to the newer snorkel. Phones are lagging so I tried typing this multiple times and currently using a shattered phone as its lagging less than my nice s7 *facepalm* but yeah, maybe check it out =)

Ford part numbers are on the how to'

Really imo the one on this forum should be a sticky in the how to and 3rd gen sections to be able to upgrade to the larger snorkel for like $7. If I get it I will try to do a small how to =)

 

[Hawaiianbasshead]

Forgot to add the pic of the side by I pulled off the link of the snorkel =)

Ford Part #

AL3Z9F721A

 

[USMCBuckWild]

Forgot to add the pic of the side by I pulled off the link of the snorkel =)

Ford Part #

AL3Z9F721A

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Did this last week. I was surprised at the difference in sizefrom one MY to the next. The 3.5 EB require some air. I know turbos like to breathe, i am wondering if the 2012+ is even big enough.

 

[LEOL]

nice!

 

[Tank_Snake]

I just did the Gotts mod last night to my 00 5.4L I've never pulled the little tube that sucks from the bumper and I was freaking amazed at how restrictive it was! I even showed my wife and was like how do they expect a huge V8 will get enough air from this tiny tube at full throttle.

Disconnected the battery as to let the computer relearn its shit, put a significantly larger tube in the smaller ones place....made ZERO cuts and hello growling engine with a $4 true CAI.....cant beat that

 

[juan214]

Engine Air Box Resonator Tube

 

[USMCBuckWild]

After having it in a couple months I am still convinced the 2012+ intake snorkel swap was a great mod.

Noticeable power increase? Not sure since I have custom tune.
Butt dyno? Not sure

Sound change? Negligible

Economy? I think a little bit but hard to tell as wife tends to do the "I used the Expy so I put $20 in it" idiocy and throws off numbers.

 

[1955moose]

Wow your wife puts gas back in it? You got a treasure there.


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[juan214]

LOL

 

[joethefordguy]

well, my expy is already sucking more air than it should, so im bringing this topic up just because im curios and bored. LoL
So i was skimming posts/topics, and i "gotts" to thinking (see what i did there?!)... id like one of you math nerds to do a little dance and riddle me this.
The gotts mod increases air flow. well... given the location and design of the airbox wouldnt it be much simpler to just calculate the airflow increase that the gotts mod provides and caclulate how much cfm you would get from a specific diameter breech at the snorkel.... like say a 16th inch drill bit, to put an angled pinhole (or three) in the snorkel instead of hacking the thing to pieces??
plus then, if you dont like the flow results you can just melt some plastic, or glue to fill the holes... or hell, just duct tape the stupid thing back up at any given time.....
Id love to hear some input on flow calculations, or even some neigh-saying as to why my theory may or may not be practical.

If I understand you right, the difference is that the Gotts mod is still pulling air from the fender well, not the [hot] engine compartment. drilling holes as you suggest (if I understood correctly) would match or exceed the Gotts airflow, but it would be with warmer air.

I did the Gotts mod on a 2000 F150 with the V6; never noticed any difference at all. it had decent power and ****** mileage before the mod, had decent power and ****** mileage after... FWIW.

On my 04 5.4L 2V, after a lot of research, I bought a K&N filter and just used that. What i was never able to find in all my research is how much a CAI lowers intake air temperature over stock. I was very surprised by that as I understood that was the whole point of a "COLD" air intake... but nobody could tell me how much cooler the intake stream would be with a CAI. Then, most of the pictures I saw of installed CAIs were pulling air from the [hot] engine compartment... so I fail to see how that was a CAI, no matter how shiny the piping is. All of that drove my decision to simply buy the K&N air filter, rather than spending a couple of hundred dollars on engine bling.

 

[joethefordguy]

If I understand you right, the difference is that the Gotts mod is still pulling air from the fender well, not the [hot] engine compartment. drilling holes as you suggest (if I understood correctly) would match or exceed the Gotts airflow, but it would be with warmer air.

I did the Gotts mod on a 2000 F150 with the V6; never noticed any difference at all. it had decent power and ****** mileage before the mod, had decent power and ****** mileage after... FWIW.

On my 04 5.4L 2V, after a lot of research, I bought a K&N filter and just used that. What i was never able to find in all my research is how much a CAI lowers intake air temperature over stock. I was very surprised by that as I understood that was the whole point of a "COLD" air intake... but nobody could tell me how much cooler the intake stream would be with a CAI. Then, most of the pictures I saw of installed CAIs were pulling air from the [hot] engine compartment... so I fail to see how that was a CAI, no matter how shiny the piping is. All of that drove my decision to simply buy the K&N air filter, rather than spending a couple of hundred dollars on engine bling.

I should have added, K&N doesn't publish any before and after dyno runs either. Nor do they state how much cooler the intake air is as a result of using their products. They have ignored my email on the topic.

 

[CharlyG]

Noob here(for Expeditions, former Excursion guy...Since my ride is 2012, i guess I dont have to do much...My 6.8Ls had fairly good stock air intake as well. I'll look into the skinny hose dealio, but not sure I have that. I'll take a gander in the morning.

 

[joethefordguy]

FWIW

I should have added, K&N doesn't publish any before and after dyno runs either. Nor do they state how much cooler the intake air is as a result of using their products. They have ignored my email on the topic.

K&N FINALLY posted a dyno graph of their products. search this forum for "FINALLY" to find that thread.