'18 Expedition Platinum vs '18 Yukon Denali

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I’m not all that impressed with the new expy I like the 17’ much better. Thought I liked the 18’ but dislike it after being around now. I think the 07-17’ feels like a much stronger truck and less mini van. Nobody can comment on the quality of the 18’ it’s too new, the Escalade and Denali May be of much higher quality.
 
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How is the Expy not 'truck-like'? The interior is identical to the Ford trucks, it has giddyup and I believe it's bigger.

The only thing the 18 Denali has over both Ford products is the exterior body style imo. Everything else isn't even close.
 

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Actually, you can speak on quality, since the expy is based on the pickups which have been around for yrs. With that said, isnt the ford trucks sec in quality only to toyota tundra?
 

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the current Denali is 3 years old with no changes other than a transmission
You said that you fixed the title. I was assuming that you meant the title of the thread and that was what I was trying to figure out. I have created a couple of threads that I would like to change the title to make it match closer to what we were really discussing.

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How is the Expy not 'truck-like'? The interior is identical to the Ford trucks, it has giddyup and I believe it's bigger.

The only thing the 18 Denali has over both Ford products is the exterior body style imo. Everything else isn't even close.

It’s lower to the ground and not as tall as the 03-17. It’s longer but that’s it. I disagree I think the Denali is nicer but everyone is entitled to opinions. I prefer truck trates.
 

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Actually, you can speak on quality, since the expy is based on the pickups which have been around for yrs. With that said, isnt the ford trucks sec in quality only to toyota tundra?

No IMO you cannot. You can comment on quality after you own it for ten years. Mine is ten years old with 159,600 miles and looks and dives like it’s new, that is quality. The 2015 F-150 quality can’t even be spoken for yet they aren’t old enough. And the F-150 quality and reliability has been slipping, they peaked in 08 and have been falling in ratings since.
 
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According to fords specs, the new expy has higher ground clearance and better approach angles than the 2017 expy. As far as height, the expys have always been taller the the gms, even now when the 18 got an inch shorter. I understand your subjectivism, u like the gms, nothing wrong with that, but urs and some others comments and reasoning for the dislike of the looks of the expy and navi are somewhat confusing. Ur cool in my book though jexp

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According to fords specs, the new expy has higher ground clearance and better approach angles than the 2017 expy. As far as height, the expys have always been taller the the gms, even now when the 18 got an inch shorter. I understand your subjectivism, u like the gms, nothing wrong with that, but urs and some others comments and reasoning for the dislike of the looks of the expy and navi are somewhat confusing. Ur cool in my book though jexp

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The 2018 Expy also has more ground clearance than my 2012 F150 4x4! Granted, it’s only about 0.2 inches, but I was shocked.
 

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According to fords specs, the new expy has higher ground clearance and better approach angles than the 2017 expy. As far as height, the expys have always been taller the the gms, even now when the 18 got an inch shorter. I understand your subjectivism, u like the gms, nothing wrong with that, but urs and some others comments and reasoning for the dislike of the looks of the expy and navi are somewhat confusing. Ur cool in my book though jexp

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I guess so much for the misinformation that has been going around the forum.
 

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Oops my bad, i dont love in tx anymore sorry lol. My parents live outside Baltimore md and i pcs'd to dover de a yr ago from san antonio tx. On glassy smooth roads, the gms are as smooth as butter though, so as long as the toad is good, youll be fine.

Nice joke on the 15 denali. The only diff btw a 15 denali(escalade) and an 18 denali is the 10 sp auto, everything else is the same.


Thats actually a huge change.

I know a couple livery guys whose 15+ GMs have chewed thru MULTIPLE trannies.... not 2, but 3-4
 

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Hi,

I'm new to this forum and this is my 1st post here.
I'm in the market for the large SUV and deciding between 2018 Expedition or 2018 Yukon Denali. Price wise, they are similar. I wonder if I could get your input on the followings if you have considered/owned Yukon Denali before.

1. Quality/Reliability of both builds (Historically on these models)
2. Resale value (Historically which one holds better RV?)
3. Repair costs (Historically which one is more expensive?)
4. Maintenance intervals
5. Safety rating (Historically)
6. Lease or Buy

Thank you in advance for your support on this!
For basicly every thing on that list of your the GMC would be the better choice do to the fact that the 2018 is a brand new vehicle with a full redesign. That and the 6.2L V8 would sound so much better than the ecoboost.
 

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For basicly every thing on that list of your the GMC would be the better choice do to the fact that the 2018 is a brand new vehicle with a full redesign. That and the 6.2L V8 would sound so much better than the ecoboost.

Oh I also forgot the ten speed paired with the 6.2 is a match made in heaven. Slap a cold air intake by cold air inductions and a Corsa cat back and, well, you have your self a beast of a truck.
 

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For basicly every thing on that list of your the GMC would be the better choice do to the fact that the 2018 is a brand new vehicle with a full redesign. That and the 6.2L V8 would sound so much better than the ecoboost.

so based on something you have no idea about, you are giving the nod to another vehicle that has been on the road for only 3 years?

i totally disagree with you. accept maybe sound. although the corsa exhaust on an ecoboost does sound very nice!!!

here are some hard differences in specs that may be helpful. these are all referencing the Expedition platinum vs Denali regular lengths.

20 less hp
10 more ft/lbs

1.8" more ground clearance

.8" less headroom 1st row
1.3" more headroom 2nd row
.8" less headroom 3rd row

1.4" less legroom 1st row
2.5"-3.6" more legroom 2nd row
12.7"-17.5" more legroom 3rd row

1.4" more hip room 1st row
2.3" more hip room 2nd row
1.1" more hip room 3rd row

.1" more shoulder room 1st row
.3" less shoulder room 2nd row
1.6" more shoulder room 3rd row

9.9 more cu. ft. from 1st row
5.8 more cu. ft. from 2nd row
4 more cu. ft. from 3rd row

2.7 less gallons fuel capacity

if anybody else wants to contribute to features and accoutrements
 

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Agreed. And like 99% of the dislikers are life-long used car buyers who won't be in the market for a 2018 until atleast 2025. And by then will be fixated on hating the 2026's....

I like the 2026's already...lol.
 
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Hey avi, have you been able to test drive or plan on doing so? Have you went to the gm and other suv forums? Weird that there seems to be more gm lovers in an expy forum, i would just drive them to find out. A lot of ppl here dont have the vehicles your searching for, well except for a few of us and i dnt think a lot of people who advocate for the gms even have had or driven them for extended periods. Most of us are just speaking out of bias for a particular vehicle.

Ive only had my expy for a day, so i can only speak on my experience from that and the test drives ive had prior. As for my thoughts on the escalade, my father owns his escalade and ive driven his vehicle very extensively over many distances and surfaces and from what ive spoken on it is my experiences with it in relation to my prior(and current) ford suvs and to a lesser extent his previous vehicle. As for the other vehicles, i have driven through test drives and other means a lot of 7+ seaters.

As far as engine reliability, though the ecoboost is new, there are f150 forums where member woth the first gen ecos are doing just fine with over 100k, and as you probably already saw, many members here with a 15-17 expy have no issues. The ecoboost is no slower than the 6.2l, just as fuel efficient, the only thing youll be missimg is the sound, which actually is very well muted in my dads truck unless you slam the petal.

The 18 is brand new so noone can accuratley comment on its reliability and "hopefully not" safety. The new ford pickups have good reliability ratings, so thats a start since they are pratically the same(and have always been), and not as mass produced.

I will say to be unbiased, my dads escalade has never given him an issue outside his outside rearview mirrors which the dealer fixed for him. Hes had it for about 2 yrs and it has about 20k mi. For ford reference, my navi served me well, i bought it with 110k and traded it with 155k after 2 yrs and no mechanical issues at all.
 

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Agreed. And like 99% of the dislikers are life-long used car buyers who won't be in the market for a 2018 until atleast 2025. And by then will be fixated on hating the 2026's....
Your assumption is wrong. The new expedition looks like garbage and it's practically a copy of the tahoe. That's the main reason I wouldn't even think of buying one. Other than that, all new car buyers get the luxury of losing up to 90% of what they originally paid for it and that's not including insurance or interest to a life-long used car buyer...
 

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Your assumption is wrong. The new expedition looks like garbage and it's practically a copy of the tahoe. That's the main reason I wouldn't even think of buying one. Other than that, all new car buyers get the luxury of losing up to 90% of what they originally paid for it and that's not including insurance or interest to a life-long used car buyer...
Some people don’t give a shit! Nothing like a new ride!! I can’t wait to get the new $78k Tahoe look a like for my wife and daughter. Worth every penny!
 

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