Anyone ever use powerstop slotted rotors/pads
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Fort C
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Replace my 2015 Limited OEM fronts last year. Original rosters warped and gave me a wicked shimmy when breaking. The pads that came with the rioters are ‘organtic’ not porciline like the OEMs. = more wear, more dust less heat. I thought about re using the OEM pads, but at least one of them was cracked and, well, new pads came with the rotors. So...
I waxed up the wheels while I had them off to help with the dust. There is defiantly more dust, but the Ltd. wheels are not too bad to clean.
Two thumbs up for performance, so far!
I waxed up the wheels while I had them off to help with the dust. There is defiantly more dust, but the Ltd. wheels are not too bad to clean.
Two thumbs up for performance, so far!
Jimdar
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Yes. That must be it *******.
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gixer2000
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Just let it go! I'm famous for getting into ******* matches(usually over lighting) and it just not worth the time.
I appreciate everyones feedback so far and I'm hoping to get all this stuff installed next weekend so I'll see for myself how they perform
That’s exactly what it is. If you were pushing it then you should have experienced brake fade at some point. I have Brembo 6 piston calipers with R1 Concept rotors and HPS pads (no offense but it’s a much more robust setup then what’s on your GT) and experience some sort of fade at some point out on the track nearly every track day I go to. It’s a natural part of track driving. Next time you go to VIR try to brake a little later and a lot harder and see if they don’t start to fade a little bit. Oh and your lap times should come down a bit to
And there’s No need for name calling, we’re all friends here
I never got into a ******* match with gxr, he claimed to be an optometrist and tried to tell me what my eyes were seeing and I simply called him out on it. Funny thing is after speaking to a real optometrist at my yearly eye exam. I told him what claims had been made and his reply to me was “this person on this forum you’re on has no idea what he is talking about and needs to go back to school”.
There isn’t anything in this world much worse than a know it all, especially when they don’t know it all
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gixer2000
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I deleted my response and will just have to block him. Not dealing with his crap anymore
I have them on all of my vehicles, including my work trucks/vans. I live in the mountains and am always on the brakes for curves and grades. I bought them first for a 2500 work van that would always shimmy badly and fade at the end of a steep grade. It was amazing the difference it made! Since then, I have put them on all of my vehicles and will surely put them on the ‘18 expo. I have them on my 4Runner, had them on my wife’s ‘16 explorer platinum, 3 work vehicles, etc. I have never noticed any additional dust. I can’t say I have been focused on looking for dust, but I have never noticed any additional.
I can’t say I have noticed dramatically decreased braking distances but they absolutely help reduce fade and warping.
Anyone asking why you would need these on an SUV and that they are not sports cars must not understand physics!! Unless you are tracking a sports car,which most don’t, you are MUCH more likely to experience the negative effects of heat on brakes in a full size SUV vs a small, light, sports car.
I can’t say I have noticed dramatically decreased braking distances but they absolutely help reduce fade and warping.
Anyone asking why you would need these on an SUV and that they are not sports cars must not understand physics!! Unless you are tracking a sports car,which most don’t, you are MUCH more likely to experience the negative effects of heat on brakes in a full size SUV vs a small, light, sports car.
I bought Power Stop KC3167 Z23 Evolution Sport Brake Kit with Calipers
I have used powerstop for years on different vehicles.
I had a pulse on my front rotors so bought these to replace, calipers not worth it, standard single piston, ya they are red but... I thought the dust was unusual for ceramic pads. rotors seem good stop good. towed our wake boat over some passes, no issues with fade.
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I have used powerstop for years on different vehicles.
I had a pulse on my front rotors so bought these to replace, calipers not worth it, standard single piston, ya they are red but... I thought the dust was unusual for ceramic pads. rotors seem good stop good. towed our wake boat over some passes, no issues with fade.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AGBSR34/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Uncle Bobo
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I used a Power Stop setup on the front of a 2002 Explorer Sport, and the difference in stopping power was incredible. The factory brakes may as well have been drums. The pads that came with the kit were dusty, but they worked very well.
The best street brakes setup I have found is EBC slotted/dimpled rotors with Hawk HPS or EBC Greenstuff/Yellowstuff pads. The Hawk pads seem to be less dusty. I have these parts on three cars now.
The best street brakes setup I have found is EBC slotted/dimpled rotors with Hawk HPS or EBC Greenstuff/Yellowstuff pads. The Hawk pads seem to be less dusty. I have these parts on three cars now.
I put on Brakeperformance.com slotted and dimpled several years back and they've lasted much longer than previous...on an 08 EL, about 12-15K per year
txracer16
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I used PowerStop Z36 in our Sequioa ( they have a problem with brake vibrations and warping rotors, rotor and pad to small for vehicle, Toyota even updated calipers on some years to try and fix issue) and was very happy with them. Much better than stock and no pulsation issues in 20k miles. Dust wasn't a problem.
Unfortunately that vehicle got flooded in Harvey and now have a 15' Expedition EL. Love it! Except for the brakes, started slight pulsation and poor pedal feel. Always felt like I had to really get on the pedal to stop. Was fixing to go with Z36 kit again but since was low miles I decided to machine factory rotors with Procut on car lathe and went with Akebono Ceramic pads from RockAuto. Akebono is OEM supplier for Toyota and Lexus as well as probably others. These pads are phenomenal! They bite so well, cold (single digits cold) or hot, no noticble fade with load or steep grades, excellent pedal feel and modulation, and very low almost no dust. ABSOLUTELY NO NOISE! Have about 10k on them so far. On the pedal feel, normal stops I'm just touching the brakes, need a little more and a little pressure increase in pedal and it's there. The pads are just that good, feel is actually better in normal driving than my Z06. Actually thinking about trying these pads on a circle track car instead of Wilwood or Hawk they have been that impressive.
They aren't your cheapest pads, $78 from Rock Auto if I remember correctly but well worth it.
Just wanted to share what I have found as there aren't much reviews in these pads and they have been awesome.
Unfortunately that vehicle got flooded in Harvey and now have a 15' Expedition EL. Love it! Except for the brakes, started slight pulsation and poor pedal feel. Always felt like I had to really get on the pedal to stop. Was fixing to go with Z36 kit again but since was low miles I decided to machine factory rotors with Procut on car lathe and went with Akebono Ceramic pads from RockAuto. Akebono is OEM supplier for Toyota and Lexus as well as probably others. These pads are phenomenal! They bite so well, cold (single digits cold) or hot, no noticble fade with load or steep grades, excellent pedal feel and modulation, and very low almost no dust. ABSOLUTELY NO NOISE! Have about 10k on them so far. On the pedal feel, normal stops I'm just touching the brakes, need a little more and a little pressure increase in pedal and it's there. The pads are just that good, feel is actually better in normal driving than my Z06. Actually thinking about trying these pads on a circle track car instead of Wilwood or Hawk they have been that impressive.
They aren't your cheapest pads, $78 from Rock Auto if I remember correctly but well worth it.
Just wanted to share what I have found as there aren't much reviews in these pads and they have been awesome.
JimmyM
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I had the slotted powerstop rotors on my 01 Denali. The OWM brakes were barely adequate for 1 hard stop. I used Hawk LTS pads with the powerstops though. I loved them. After that, braking confidence was greatly improved, cold or hot. No warping or other issues after 10s of 1000s of miles and several hard stops.
Slots and holes in rotors are mostly a gimmick. A good set of pads, with a good set of solid rotors will work just fine. Any notion that holes and slots are going to help stop fade are false. Maybe back in the old days when brake pads would out-gas a lot at high temps, but modern break pads don't do this.
JimmyM
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Very true. But they were cheaper than my factory rotors at the time and still worked great. If your modern pads a outgassing that fast, something has gone dreadfully wrong.
Look at race cars. Most do not have holes. They used to. But not any more.
JExpedition07
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I went with the regular power stop rear rotor and brake pad kit for $120, just Realized I ordered the daily driver set instead of severe duty so I may be doing them again
only $50 more for the heavy duty set.
only $50 more for the heavy duty set.
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there is not a single hypercar that doesnt have slotted/drilled rotors. literally. Porsche 918, Koenigsegg, McLaren, Ferrari La Ferrari, Lambo, and even high end sports cars like Corvettes, Porsche 911, Lambo Huracan, etc.
There has to be something to it. I am no metallurgist or physicist but i cant imagine it not helping some heat build up. Are our vehicles taxing the brakes enough to warrant these modifications? I think so. EVERY large vehicle we have ever used them on has performed better regarding heat related issues of warping/vibrating and heat fade after prolonged usage. like long steep grades.
JExpedition07
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Looks like I can still cancel the purchase on the DD ones. Think I’ll cancel this and switch to the HD ones after looking at the warranty (3,000 miles vs 36,000 miles) that says a lot right there. The only HD set from them is drilled and slotted... should I just bite the bullet and buy MotorCraft HD?
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gixer2000
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Yeah I got the HD set because there isnt much of a difference in price but the warranty difference is huge
JExpedition07
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I cancelled and ordered two Motorcraft Heavy Duty rears and pads, didn’t want to risk it.
