JLT Oil Seperator

[chuck s]

Three year old video?

-- Chuck

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Three year old video?

-- Chuck

Chuck the information in the video is still accurate. Ford hasn't come up with a solution and the top engine cleaner can still seriously over heat turbos.

 

[JExpedition07]

Ye$$ Ford only Recommend$ any ecoboo$t or any DI engine effected by carbon build up ha$ the entire head replaced. I *cough* $$$$$$$ wonder why they’d $ay $uch a thing in$tead of ju$t having the things cleaned up. They also don’t want you putting on a catch can which BTW has been proven to greatly benefit these engines.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Ye$$ Ford only Recommend$ any ecoboo$t or any DI engine effected by carbon build up ha$ the entire head replaced. I *cough* $$$$$$$ wonder why they’d $ay $uch a thing in$tead of ju$t having the things cleaned up. They also don’t want you putting on a catch can which BTW has been proven to greatly benefit these engines.

Since I have the 8 year 100K mile extended warranty, I'm not going to put on a catch can. I did switch to full synthetic after the first 1000 miles, which he mentioned later on towards the end of the video.

 

[J Ski]

I ordered directly from JLT for $139. https://www.jlttruecoldair.com/ZenC...ucts_id=1105&zenid=gm52i1lbcchj0nsgjbf6pvu1h0

That is the minimum price you will see. You might be able to get a little cheaper on American Muscle or LMR with one of their coupons if the order is over $100.

I ordered directly because they are about an hour away from my home and I knew UPS would deliver in one day.

Got mine on today! I live 20 minutes from JLT shop so I got mine for $119 in store. It’s pretty cool and real easy to install

 

[limitedex]

Got mine on today! View attachment 23714I live 20 minutes from JLT shop so I got mine for $119 in store. It’s pretty cool and real easy to install

JLT makes great products. Used many in the mustang scene myself.

 

[07xln]

Looks good. I'm about to pull the trigger on one of these

 

[Machete]

Lol 5.0 coyote, 6.2 Boss, 6.8 Triton V10, New 7.0L yep no V8s from Ford oh and the 6.7 PowerStroke.

Uhhh, show me a v8 in a 2017+ Expy or ****.....exactly, crickets.

 

[07xln]

You again!!!!

Reported for trolling. Buh bye

 

[Casflynn]

I just installed one of these over the weekend, what did you guys do with the heater line coming in from the firewall? Seems to be either push them down a little with the can or push them back. I bent my bracket a little forward then zip tied the heater lines together so they wouldn’t rub on the can. Mine is the 3.0 version of that matters, maybe if you guys had the smaller 2oz version it was different. Thanks


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[chuck s]

I installed mine installed minutes ago. I moved the wiring out of the way as the hose seemed to press on it too much. The hoses to touch and I left them that way. There was what I consider a lot of oil in the EGR hose I removed.

Had a lot of difficulty getting the engine cover back on. For starters I need a stool to get in there (and check the oil dipstick too). I think it's on straight.

Checking and emptying the can doesn't look all that convenient but I'm giving it a try after watching videos showing all the crud on the intake valves with DI engines.

-- Chuck

 

[LokiWolf]

I installed mine installed minutes ago. I moved the wiring out of the way as the hose seemed to press on it too much. The hoses to touch and I left them that way. View attachment 27348 There was what I consider a lot of oil in the EGR hose I removed.

Had a lot of difficulty getting the engine cover back on. For starters I need a stool to get in there (and check the oil dipstick too). I think it's on straight.

Checking and emptying the can doesn't look all that convenient but I'm giving it a try after watching videos showing all the crud on the intake valves with DI engines.

-- Chuck

Awesome Chuck!

Pictures when you empty it!


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[mquick5]

It does look like a pain, trying to reach in there and unscrew it. And I think you were supposed to put the right hand hose, behind the heater hose. That way it's out of the way, when unscrewing the can to empty.

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[Motorcity muscle]

You again!!!!

Reported for trolling. Buh bye

QUOTE="07xln, post: 303028, member: 54439"]There’s guys on here approaching 100k mikes. There are guys on the F150 forums approaching double that. They seem to still be going strong. While carbon build up seems to be more premature in direct injection motors, it’s hardly caused issues for the ecoboost and been directly related to any problems. The 18 and up models take care of this with port and direct injection.[/QUOTE]

 

[chuck s]

Thanks, it does appear the hose might fit behind the heater hose(s). I'll check it out later. The reason I posted the photo was to get a critique on the installation.

-- Chuck

 

[MuddySpokes]

I am struggling with this one. Catch cans definitely do catch stuff. And good information in this thread.

The question that keeps coming up is benefit versus actual issues avoided. Sure, the catch can will reduce crud flowing through the intake plumbing, so that is a benefit. No question there. With the observations about high mileage motors running without any observed impact from the crud, it raises the question of whether this does anything more than minimize the slime layer.

And, am not clear about whether the carbon effect is due to the type of oil. From what I had read, full synthetic should have better resistance to this. Only real way to tell is by running two trucks where one has the OE synthetic blend, the other has full synthetic, and doing a tear-down at various intervals. This will also show whether carbon build up is actually having an impact in the first place.

If anything, I might consider a catch can for removing the slower burning oil from entering the combustion chamber. But for all I know, this was factored into the process by Ford's engineers. Then again, maybe not. Having water vapor go through the combustion chamber is not all that big a deal to me as long as it does not cause hydro lock. Some people actually add water vapor to the intake stream. But, this is a different topic.

 

[Boostedbus]

I am struggling with this one. Catch cans definitely do catch stuff. And good information in this thread.

The question that keeps coming up is benefit versus actual issues avoided. Sure, the catch can will reduce crud flowing through the intake plumbing, so that is a benefit. No question there. With the observations about high mileage motors running without any observed impact from the crud, it raises the question of whether this does anything more than minimize the slime layer.

And, am not clear about whether the carbon effect is due to the type of oil. From what I had read, full synthetic should have better resistance to this. Only real way to tell is by running two trucks where one has the OE synthetic blend, the other has full synthetic, and doing a tear-down at various intervals. This will also show whether carbon build up is actually having an impact in the first place.

If anything, I might consider a catch can for removing the slower burning oil from entering the combustion chamber. But for all I know, this was factored into the process by Ford's engineers. Then again, maybe not. Having water vapor go through the combustion chamber is not all that big a deal to me as long as it does not cause hydro lock. Some people actually add water vapor to the intake stream. But, this is a different topic.

There is a you tube video showing that the valve coking affects the Ecoboost 4cyl engines more as far as causing a misfire code on cold start ups.There is also other benefits of having a catch can and that is keeping your innercooler from clogging up and decrease in fuel mileage and performance because of dirty obstructed induction system.

 

[chuck s]

It will be some weeks before I have 1000 more miles on the truck and check the can. The OE PCV hose was internally saturated with oil and I plugged it with paper towels before storing it.

I can't imagine any downside to a catch can.

-- Chuck

 

[John D]

What happens if you forget to empty it and it stays full?

 

[mquick5]

What happens if you forget to empty it and it stays full?

My guess, it would just be as if you didn't have the can installed. Once full the blow by would do exactly that, blow by the can and back into the throttle body.

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