JLT Oil Seperator

[ExpeditionAndy]

I was suggesting he was incorrect too but i didn’t want to be rude....

The Owner's Manual doesn't show any difference between summer and winter. so it's 5W-30 year round.

 

[JExpedition07]

Should have worded it different... i meant like the winter weight vs running temp weight. 5 (Winter)-30 the W is an oil cold flow rating. He was claiming he uses 10W-30 which would mean a winter or “cold” flow weight of 10 instead of 5, which i thought was incorrect, which you verified. So basically when he starts his engine his oil is too resistive to flow and isn’t getting to everything as quick as it should.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Should have worded it different... i meant like the winter weight vs running temp weight. 5 (Winter)-30 the W is an oil cold flow rating. He was claiming he uses 10W-30 which would mean a winter or “cold” flow weight of 10 instead of 5, which i thought was incorrect, which you verified.

I understand. Back in the day sometimes you would see in areas where it got really cold where cars would run 10W-30 in the summer and 5W-30 in the winter to get the oil to flow when it was -20 outside.

 

[AllBoostNoEco]

I’d been on the fence about a catch can until today. I vented my BOV to atmosphere months ago, and then noticed today I’m actually getting drops on my driveway from the oil that’s being vented through it. Considering the BOV only vents maybe 1% of the time I spend driving, that’s a LOT of oil coming through the intake system.

 

[chuck s]

Please post your oil analysis. I intend to have this done on my 17 Expedition as well. For curiosity if nothing else. I've done it with my 2006 Honda S2000 the three years I've owned it. Oil looks good at OEM maintenance schedule or annual before winter layup which may not happen this year since I'm now in Virginia. The Honda has a Maintenance Minder and computes oil change intervals. I've been running 10W30 Royal Purple in this engine. Will see what Ford puts in the truck.

I'm a believer that full synthetics are better lubricants. My wife's Subaru 3.6R has two oil change intervals and the full synthetic is twice as long as conventional oil. There's a lot of hype in motor oil but on the grand scheme of things full synthetics are a minimal extra cost.

BTW there an aftermarket dual catch can in the S2000. No blower and minimal oil caught since installation Another curiosity item. Engine is injected at the intake port so fuel is diluting any bypassed oil vapor anyway.

-- Chuck

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Please post your oil analysis. I intend to have this done on my 17 Expedition as well. For curiosity if nothing else. I've done it with my 2006 Honda S2000 the three years I've owned it. Oil looks good at OEM maintenance schedule or annual before winter layup which may not happen this year since I'm now in Virginia. The Honda has a Maintenance Minder and computes oil change intervals. I've been running 10W30 Royal Purple in this engine. Will see what Ford puts in the truck.

I'm a believer that full synthetics are better lubricants. My wife's Subaru 3.6R has two oil change intervals and the full synthetic is twice as long as conventional oil. There's a lot of hype in motor oil but on the grand scheme of things full synthetics are a minimal extra cost.

BTW there an aftermarket dual catch can in the S2000. No blower and minimal oil caught since installation Another curiosity item. Engine is injected at the intake port so fuel is diluting any bypassed oil vapor anyway.

-- Chuck

This was my 1000 mile Oil Analysis:

 

[chuck s]

Which oil? The factory Ford oil I assume? (should show in the report header which you masked off probably 'cuz your home address is there. ).

-- Chuck

 

[JExpedition07]

Odd.... you should see much more antifreeze in your oil, improves lubrication and cooling properties of your oil.... Your head gasket should free flow the antifreeze through to combustion as well to help with a pleasant smell of pancakes and syrup on a Saturday morning.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Which oil? The factory Ford oil I assume? (should show in the report header which you masked off probably 'cuz your home address is there. ).

-- Chuck

It was the factory semi-synthetic oil. 5W-30

 

[Muddy Bean]

So fuel percentage is slightly elevated along with most of the metals. Interesting. Would love to see the next lab report Andy. Please post it when it comes in.


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[John Christopher]

Odd.... you should see much more antifreeze in your oil, improves lubrication and cooling properties of your oil.... Your head gasket should free flow the antifreeze through to combustion as well to help with a pleasant smell of pancakes and syrup on a Saturday morning.

That's funny.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

So fuel percentage is slightly elevated along with most of the metals. Interesting. Would love to see the next lab report Andy. Please post it when it comes in.


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I will but I still have to put another 400 miles on it that that will take a while because I usually don't drive very far.

 

[chuck s]

I'm gonna get my truck serviced per the schedule and we can compare oil analysis. Will be a couple months at the earliest though. I did put a sample bottle in the back though while I was thinking about it.

-- Chuck

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I'm gonna get my truck serviced per the schedule and we can compare oil analysis. Will be a couple months at the earliest though. I did put a sample bottle in the back though while I was thinking about it.

-- Chuck

If you contact Blackstone Labs, they'll send you a kit for free, it has a post paid mailing label, a bottle for your sample, so oil absorbent material, and once you have your sample you put it inside the mailer and drop it in a mailbox.

 

[chuck s]

Thanks I have several Blackstone sample kits. For lurkers these are Free and you pay only when the analysis is done.

- Chuck

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Thanks I have several Blackstone sample kits. For lurkers these are Free and you pay only when the analysis is done.

- Chuck

It's nice that they are only 7 miles away from me so I just drive over and drop off the sample. I worked there one afternoon making up the kits. I was looking for part time work but that wasn't it for me, It was too repetitive. It was a cool place to work and the people there are really very nice.

 

[Machete]

This is just one reason I cant buy an eco boost engine, or a Ford now. How can the engineers design a direct injection on a turbo? Ive seen almost a half a quart of oil in those cans at oil change intervals from owners. NFW Im buying a poor design. I would love to see the back side of those valves after 50k miles. Looking at Toyota now. Ford lost me with their abandonment of the v8.

 

[07xln]

This is just one reason I cant buy an eco boost engine, or a Ford now. How can the engineers design a direct injection on a turbo? Ive seen almost a half a quart of oil in those cans at oil change intervals from owners. NFW Im buying a poor design. I would love to see the back side of those valves after 50k miles. Looking at Toyota now. Ford lost me with their abandonment of the v8.

Then go away already.

 

[LokiWolf]

This is just one reason I cant buy an eco boost engine, or a Ford now. Ford lost me with their abandonment of the v8.

5.0 Coyote? Pretty sure Ford has not abandoned the V8. I do think the Eco is better, but still a strong V8. Gets better MPG than Toyota’s bigger V8.

 

[JExpedition07]

5.0 Coyote? Pretty sure Ford has not abandoned the V8. I do think the Eco is better, but still a strong V8. Gets better MPG than Toyota’s bigger V8.

Lol 5.0 coyote, 6.2 Boss, 6.8 Triton V10, New 7.0L yep no V8s from Ford oh and the 6.7 PowerStroke.