Stuck at gas station truck won’t start

[JExpedition07]

Turned off the truck to fill up and now it won’t even attempt to turn over. All I get is a click from the passenger side fuse box when I attempt to start. Battery is only a few months old and is ford oem fully charged. I’m assuming the starter has crapped out on me?

Guess I’m going to have to get the truck to spot and drop the starter and replace......f*ck me.

It’s almost like my truck doesn’t recognize the chipped key. I left the headlights on and walked away for about 30 seconds, I’m wondering if that did something. It’s not really reacting to me key when I click it over the turns which is weird.

 

[bobmbx]

Turned off the truck to fill up and now it won’t even attempt to turn over. All I get is a click from the passenger side fuze box when I attempt to start. Battery is only a few months old and is ford oem fully charged. I’m assuming the starter has crapped out on me?

Guess I’m going to have to get the truck to spot and drop the starter and replace......f*ck me.

Apologies upfront here for asking this but.....is it in Park?

 

[JExpedition07]

Apologies upfront here for asking this but.....is it in Park?

Yes sir

 

[iimagine]

Cycle the gear selector and double check.

 

[Trainmaster]

Check the battery terminals and wiggle the wires. Rap them with something. If that doesn't work, rap the starter hard with a hammer or pipe.

 

[LokiWolf]

You have Radio? Lights? Any other signs that it is alive, and just the Starter?

Not unheard of that a Motorcraft Battery fails all of a sudden. Might be new to you, but could have been sitting a dealer shelf for a LONG time. Never would buy a battery from the Dealer.

Duralast Battery with a good warranty is always my regular go to. Odyssey or Optima Yellow Top, if you really want to spend some money.


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[JExpedition07]

A few issues, it appears my fob isn’t unlocking or locking the doors either. My Navigation screen works, interior lights work, but key and fob aren’t working.

I cannot depress the brake pedal it feels like a rock (has never happened) or get it to cycle from park on the shifter. The people here are understating and said they have plenty of open pumps at the moment. Before I get this thing picked up I’m going to try a spare key.

 

[JExpedition07]

It’s looking like the computer has went haywire

 

[LokiWolf]

A few issues, it appears my fob isn’t unlocking or locking the doors either. My Navigation screen works, interior lights work, but key and fob aren’t working.

I cannot depress the brake pedal it feels like a rock (has never happened) or get it to cycle from park on the shifter. The people here are understating and said they have plenty of open pumps at the moment. Before I get this thing picked up I’m going to try a spare key.

This is going to sound weird, but your Truck needs a Reboot, and to clear the KAM(Keep Alive Memory).

Pull the battery cables, turn the lights on. Wait a few minutes. Turn light switch off, and reconnect battery.


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[Plati]

Could be a dead battery. Might be alternator went south. You need a voltmeter.

 

[JExpedition07]

Got it into neutral a few of us rolled it into a spot. The red anti theft light is staying illuminated when I turn the key.

Going to try disconnecting battery for a bit but I think ultimately she’s going to be put on a flatbed and sent off to the dealer. Also going to hit the starter with a hammer for sh*ts and giggles.

 

[JExpedition07]

Spare key is also being treated like it doesn’t belong to the truck

 

[LokiWolf]

Did you do what I suggested? Remove battery cables, leave lights switch on for at least 10 minutes, then reconnect and try to start it?


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[JExpedition07]

Did you do what I suggested? Remove battery cables, leave lights switch on for at least 10 minutes, then reconnect and try to start it?


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Loki I owe you one! I left it unplugged for a while and she started up! Thank you thank you!

 

[LokiWolf]

Loki I owe you one! I left it unplugged for a while and she started up! Thank you thank you!

No Problem!

Yeah, It’s a damn Computer with a Motor Attached.

The Keep Alive Memory was most likely corrupted in some way. By you disconnecting the battery and draining all residual power, it gets completely cleared. Apply power back and it has to reload from scratch.

If you start having to do that more often than every once in a while, you have a ECM or BCM going bad.


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[ExplorerTom]

Jump the terminals on the starter solenoid?

 

[LokiWolf]

Jump the terminals on the starter solenoid?

Not a problem anymore. The reboot fixed the problem and he is up and running.


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[Plati]

That's a cool trick. Was it the headlights you turn to ON?

Is that the same effect as this?

Kinda funny. I was driving in pouring rain today and wanted to make sure my lights were on ... Didn't actually know which position that was. Had to Try it later to learn

 

[LokiWolf]

That's a cool trick. Was it the headlights you turn to ON?

Is that the same effect as this?

Kinda funny. I was driving in pouring rain today and wanted to make sure my lights were on ... Didn't actually know which position that was. Had to Try it later to learn

Similar.

I do not recommend that method. If done incorrectly, it can actually Damage sensitive electronics. Removing the battery cables completely and opening a manual circuit like a headlight switch, causes an open circuit and creates enough draw to drain the capacitors and wipe the KAM.

Also, I don’t carry a wire around in my truck. The method I laid out can be done by anybody, on most places with very simple tools.


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[bobmbx]

Similar.

I do not recommend that method. If done incorrectly, it can actually Damage sensitive electronics. Removing the battery cables completely and opening a manual circuit like a headlight switch, causes an open circuit and creates enough draw to drain the capacitors and wipe the KAM.

Also, I don’t carry a wire around in my truck. The method I laid out can be done by anybody, on most places with very simple tools.


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IIRC, pulling the battery cables resets the powertrain and clears the fault codes, but does not reset the drivetrain (transmission). Shorting, described in the video, will reset everything. I don't have empirical data on that, though.